Had To Draw Down This Morning!

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garryc, . . . what's so special about Ohio that makes the proposition of shooting this slime ball off limits?

Far as I can see, . . . me and WildAlaska are just a couple of old geezers who CCW, . . . and neither of us is in the physical shape to take on someone 30 years our junior, . . . in a street fight.

I figure the guy would have been a serious threat to my life, limb, health, etc. and that IS sufficient to pop him if push comes to shove. Get beat up if you want, . . . but I have a 1911 and 25 rounds of ammo for it on me most of the time and I ain't takin' a thrashing from some punk who wants to rob me and beat me to a pulp for kicks and giggles.

If I don't see a weapon, . . . I'll give him the benefit and tell him to stop. But if I see his ball bat, . . . club, . . . knife, . . . he'll probably wish he didn't have them when he went to the gun fight.

Good job, Wild, . . .

May God bless,
Dwight
 
Sometimes I also choose to carry my Seecamp .32 as a primary. It's done with the understanding that I'll have to work harder to stop the bad guy.
If the guy would have kept coming, shoot or not shoot? Wait for contact or just pop him?
The scariest bad guy I ever knew didn't carry a weapon. He was a big psycho with plenty of knife scars on his normally shirtless chest. The local police were even afraid of him.

The point is that if a person is told to stop but is determined to close on a drawn pistol, he's beyond common sense and negotiation. Yes, I would shoot.

And I would notify the police to be logged as the concerned, justified citizen I am.

Larry
 
not around here....

I agree that the proper thing to do is to call the police for the variety of reasons given above, but I might have hesitated myself. If I lived in one of the more urban areas of my home state (KY), I might not have out of fear that the police would have made me out to be the bad guy. While I expect that most rural law enforcement officers understand the need for self-reliance, my perception is that the more urban ones do not. I don't have anything to back this assumption up, and I wondered if anyone out there has any experience with this situation.
Today 05:36 PM

The constables, sheriffs, and Houston PD...and most importantly, the District Attorney...are good about their treatment of people who must shoot in self-defense. It has to be a legal shoot, but if it is, then it is, and they're not going to harass you.

They are, however, likely to say "Good for you."

Springmom
 
If he'd have kept on coming, I'd have called for two ambulances, and then told the officers (when they arrived) that I was in fear for my life, and before I cooperated with his investigation, I'd like to speak with my attorney. My 0.02 Thankfully, your ok, without having to ride out that crap storm. Regards 18DAI.
 
Wild,
I know you're an ICON here, but I've got to say either you didn't call 911 because of some extra beverages or my BS meter is still working.
dean
 
Glad you're safe...

You did right, if you were in Florida, the "right-to-shoot" law would've allowed you to shoot him even if you weren't on your own property. How are Alaska's laws about shooting anyway? If you're on your property (be it business or home.) do you have to retreat first, or can you stand you ground?


Epywhydoyoutypeweirdsentencesinyournameon
 
a good day

You did the right thing. You made it home in one piece. Some folks may say you should have done this or that, but they wern't there. Every day above ground is a good day.
 
Good Job WA

Given the situation, disparity of size, age and physical ability, and the fact that you were backed up with no retreat possible - one more step from the perp and I'd shoot.

Years ago, had two guys force their way into my apartment. Both bigger, older, meaner (I was 22-23, 5'8", 142#). Found out later one was a semi-pro fighter. What's semi-pro anyway? Is that like being semi-pregnant? But I digress.

My watchband broke and cut my wrist when I rolled out of the first guy's grip. (Stupid me, tried to push them back out.) I back pedalled while telling them to leave, that they didn't belong there. Had a hunting knife on the bookshelf as a letter opener. I had determined that if they took one more step or reached for that knife I was turning and jetting down the hall. I could clear the bed in one jump, and there was a loaded .22 under the mattress. I would have shot if they'd have followed. By the grace of God, they realized they had the wrong apartment (my bookshelves had books, not booze bottles like my neighbor).

Sometimes, you're just one step away from a trigger pull and you know that that is all it will take. Sometimes ya gotta pull it, sometimes you don't. Glad ya didn't have to.
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Epyon

Why does he type in the middle of his name? Cause that's his trademark.

CPAandIforonewouldmissitifheeverstopsdoingitSPR
 
Justifiable shoot, size and age of your attacker plus a reasonable suspicion that he under the influence of narcotics.

Funny though, I thought you gave up carry? Glad you changed your mind.:)
 
I had that happen once and my only thought (despite my 4" Kimber Compact) was that .....I wish I had a bigger gun.

I can't imagine that with a Seacamp.

Lycchallengemetappropriatelyandeveryonewenthomethrope
 
That's what I was referring to earlier. I've done this numerous times and ALWAYS wished I had a bigger gun; be it with an J frame, 1911, or even an M4 or shotgun.
 
My CCW instructor here in OK said that before one can pull a handgun he/she should have already been assaulted. Specifically, I'm on the ground with a bloody nose and the attacker is kicking me.

Thats very close to the way it is in certain counties in ohio
 
Well done, WA, and I am glad it didn't come to gunfire.

...The ratio of having to fire vs. the BG deciding he's got other things to do is supposedly about 1 in ten, so the outcome's not unexpected. It's chillin' either way.
 
If he would have kept coming I think you should have shot him. Anyone who advances on a drawn weapon can certainly be reasonably assumed to be intent on doing you harm or worse. Plus with the disparity of force, no way you should let a big bruiser get close or ahold of you! Yay teeny Seecamp. (right where he would've expected your wallet to be!) You don't have to be a punching bag for anyone.

Now then, Mr. PC...you know the PC thing to do was to call the cops. Shame Shame.:D

I know why you didn't. Underneath all your PCness, you got a streak of the stubborn American pride. Your freudian slip is showing...:D

Glad you're OK.
 
Wild, I know exactly how you felt. Glad ya didn't have to shoot.

And yeah, I know why you wanted to talk to spiff... Me, I had a live cop there. We both talked it through.
 
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