H110 light show?

Again, BBarn, with respect, all you did was give your opinion - Hogdon is offering two because some people will think 1 is better so they will keep more on hand.

I'm having a tough time finding the logic in that, considering all the shortages and the public's buying habits - which are to stockpile already. No need to offer 2 identical products for people to want to keep more on hand.
 
Gun is a 629-5 with a 5" barrel. My favorite handgun.
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So is mine. 629 Classic, 5"bbl. I also have a "dirty harry" (8-3/8") but it resides in the safe extensively.

I moved from W296 to 2400 for my full-throttle rounds (240gn) because I wanted reduced muzzle flash, recoil, etc. 2400 is just a touch more tame and behaves much better when you turn it down a little. Not to mention that 2400 doesn't require a magnum primer ;).

I too am getting up in years a bit, complete with a little arthritis. Factor in the maturity with age, and a reduced desire for max recoil . . . you see where I'm going. Anyway, I also have a lot of loaded ammo with HS-6 - and they are considerably more tame with less flash n recoil than either W296 or 2400. They are still fairly stout, none-the-less. I mentioned that I have a lot of loaded 44 Mag w/ HS-6 because I am out of HS-6 and won't get any more. In the future, I may try Power Pistol or AA#7 the next time I need to make something a little more tame. But right now, the plan is to just use 2400 turned down a little. We'll see.

You are using lighter slugs than me. All the more reason to move to a little faster propellant.
 
Here's proof for anyone still unsure that H110 and W296 are the same powder. I bought these at different stores about a week apart. Note they have the exact same lot number - 1041713 2241.
 

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Northof50, why don't you ask Hodgdon. Are you afraid of the answer?

Do you prefer ignorance to knowledge?
 
I happen to have an old MSDS from St. Marks Powder dated April 2009. Which has a Hodgdon Cover sheet which states that H110 is also known as WC296.
They have been the same powder for quite some time.

Dana
 
Disseminator - That simply describes Hogdon purchasing the rights to the powder. It does not explain the logic behind packaging 2 identical products in different packages for the past 12 years.
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Why did General Motors, Ford/Mercury, and Chrysler/Dodge sell the same cars under different names for decades then? :D

Here's proof for anyone still unsure that H110 and W296 are the same powder. I bought these at different stores about a week apart. Note they have the exact same lot number - 1041713 2241.
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Now THAT, is what I call proof. ;)

I happen to have an old MSDS from St. Marks Powder dated April 2009. Which has a Hodgdon Cover sheet which states that H110 is also known as WC296.
They have been the same powder for quite some time.
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Post it up here so this can be settled now and for the future when this will surely come up again.

@Chainsaw: Sorry we muddled up your thread with this 'debate'.
 
NOSecondBest - there has only been 1 fact presented by those who believe it is the same powder - Hogdon has the license to market the name and powder WW296. There have been no other facts - just opinions and and hearsay information about "phone calls" and verbal communication.
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"OK, let me make this as clear as possible. The only difference between
H110 and Winchester 296 is the label on the container. There is no
other difference".

Northof50: You're spitting into the wind by arguing they aren't the same.
 
Perhaps I should help, being one of those getting things off track.

I also use 2400 and HS-6 more than H110, mostly for less blast and recoil. I tried #7 but still prefer either HS-6 or 2400. Power Pistol is good for a little less recoil, but it too is flashy. Picked up a pound of CFE Pistol and will be loading up some of it to try in one of the magnums or 45 Colt soon.

2400 is kinda like a science experiment in the Casull. Plenty of heat, light, and sound with each pull of the trigger. Haven't felt the need to step up to H110 in it yet.
 
Nick CS. I'm becoming a believer of having different powders for different loads, namely in revolvers given their versatility. Interesting abpit 2400 and hs6, Ive got a little hs6 Ill have to try. Ill keep the H110 around fpr impressing friends.:D

Northof50, thats ludicrous!:rolleyes:
 
I was once asked to leave with a refund of my range fee. 44 mag upper range load of 110 under 240gr ball (IIRC) made the steel walls of the indoor range ring like a bell, in addition to the jumbo size fireballs.
Next time I was there they told me there were dents in the back stop where I was shooting, and to leave the 44 at home.
 
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I was once asked to leave with a refund of my range fee. 44 mag upper range load of 110 under 240gr ball (IIRC) made the steel walls of the indoor range ring like a bell, in addition to the jumbo size fireballs.
Next time I was there they told me there were dents in the back stop where I was shooting, and to leave the 44 at home.
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The indoor range I shoot at says we can shoot anything up to 50 cal BMG so long as it's under 4,000 FPS.

I am trying to get a friend who owns a Barrett to bring it some day. ;)
 
+1 to the guys who said the flash is worse with lighter loads. These ball powders need pressure to burn efficiently (which is why you should never go below published minimums with them). So, the more pressure, the better it burns, leaving less to flash once it contacts the air. Mild loads from my .454 produce a fire ball the size of a basketball, but with hot loads ya can't see any flash at all.
 
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