Gun terms that just don't go together

DiscoRacing said:
must have been one a the half plastic ones.
Negative. Aluminum alloy frame. Stainless cylinder and barrel.
The same exact weapon (frame, cylinder, barrel, everything) is used for .357 Mag models, but it can't even handle two boxes of piddly .38 Special +P loads....
 
Tactical weapon... Where's the puking smiley when you need it???

People employ tactics, not guns, therefore a gun cannot be tactical in and of itself, only used in a tactical manner.

It annoys the ---- out of me.
 
No. A weapon is an inanimate object incapable of making decisions, strategizing, or doing anything of their own accord to accomplish a specific goal or objective.

Weapons are tools with which you may achieve a tactical purpose, or use in a tactical manner. But no tool (firearm, flashlight, screwdriver, hammer, etc.) is, in and of itself, tactical.

It is impossible for it to be as you have stated. You, along with thousands of other people, have simply bought in to a marketing gimmick which makes all things painted/anodized the color black suddenly "tactical, because that's what SWAT uses". Not to mention more expensive.

If I shoot my guns(weapons) at the range, is that tactical? When I'm shooting doves out of the sky, is that a "tactical" objective? No, to both counts. It's called recreation, hunting, sporting, whatever monicker you wish to label it, but it is most definitely not "tactical"...

I would remove the word from the English language if I could...
 
Coastie, an individuals choice of equipment is a tactical decision, whether you think so or not. Calling a firearm tactical implies it's specific purpose, kind of like calling my New Balances "running shoes." Now, I've never seen shoes run by themselves, either. It's common descriptive phrasing, and you don't have to like it to make it proper.
 
There's a difference between you personally not liking something and it not being right. Elevating matters of preference to the level of moral absolute smacks of a hyperactive ego.
 
Coastie, an individuals choice of equipment is a tactical decision, whether you think so or not. Calling a firearm tactical implies it's specific purpose, kind of like calling my New Balances "running shoes." Now, I've never seen shoes run by themselves, either. It's common descriptive phrasing, and you don't have to like it to make it proper

I agree with this.

Any fire arm is tactical if used in a tactical manor.
People liking something does not make it proper.
 
"assault weapon"

I dislike this one because it was made up entirely by anti-gun groups and politicians in an attempt to deprive us of whatever type of gun is politically incorrect at the moment. "Assult rifle" is OK because that is a true military term that refers to a very specific type of firearm: A rifle firing an intermediate cartridge with select-fire capability.

"Assault weapon" however, is a perversion of "assault rifle" which was chosen because it sounds menacing to the uninformed. Bayonet lugs, flash hiders, grenade launcers, pistol grips, folding stocks and other so-called "assault weapon features" have absolutely no bearing on whether a firearm meets the criteria to be an "assault rifle"; it has to be select-fire and chambered for an intermediate cartridge to qualify.

Even worse are terms like "assault pistol" or, in the case of the Brady Bunch's latest perversion, "assault clip." Apparently, simply adding the word "assault" to anything firearm related makes it evil and unsuitable for civilized society:mad:.

Other terms that drive me nuts:

"Cop killer bullet": Are these bullets only capable of killing cops? Are these the only type of bullet capable of killing cops? Are there any more irritating ways to slaughter the English language that have yet to be discovered?:rolleyes:

"Sniper Rifle": This one wouldn't be bad if it was used in the proper context: a rifle used by a sniper or specifically designed for sniping. Outside of that context, however, it has very little meaning because just about every type of rifle ever devised has been used for sniping at some point or another. There is no concrete list of features that qualify a rifle as a "sniper rifle." The only difference between a sniper rifle and a hunting/target/plinking/self-defense rifle is the person attached to the finger on the trigger. Yet again, we have a term that has been latched onto by anti-gun zealots because it sounds scary:mad:.
 
The following phrases seem absurdly erroneous to me unless they're preceded by the all-important word "Relatively" or followed by the words "compared to [name of something unquestionably worse]."
  • Mild .357 Magnum / .44 Magnum rounds
  • Comfortable and easy-shooting military surplus bolt rifle
  • Inexpensive prewar Winchester lever rifle
  • Inexpensive .41 Magnum / .44 Special ammo
  • Simple and easy-to-repair double-action revolver lockwork
  • Robust, strong, and reliable top-break revolver
  • Mild-kicking featherweight Magnum
  • Jam-proof automatic pistol
 
Mild .357 Magnum / .44 Magnum rounds
Comfortable and easy-shooting military surplus bolt rifle
Inexpensive prewar Winchester lever rifle
Inexpensive .41 Magnum / .44 Special ammo

That's all a matter of opinion.
What's expensive to you and I, may be inexpensive to others.
A surplus rifle that's uncomfortable and awkward to you, may be comfortable and easy-shooting to me.
"Mild Magnum" loads do sound oxymoronic, but exist in factory loads and, particularly, hand loads.

Simple and easy-to-repair double-action revolver lockwork
I take it, you've never worked on a Ruger?
Most parts are plug-and-play.
But, again, that can depend on the mechanical skill level of the person involved. Some people open up a Ruger DA and think "Ooh, simple"; while others may crack open the same revolver and think "Egads", and be very much intimidated.
Even S&Ws aren't bad. You just have to keep a closer eye on the small parts that want to take flight.
 
FYI

I don't know why:

a 38 is a .357

a 44 is .429
.......

Its because of the history of ammo delevopement. Early cartridges were loaded with "heel" type bullets (like the .22LR still is), and the bullet diameter (at the largest point) was the same as the outisde of the cases. And this was also the "traditional" diameter of the bore of the cap& ball guns that preceeded them.

When advances in technology moved ammo to inside lubed bullets, with the largest diameter held inside the case, the actual diameter of the bullets had to be reduced (.38s became .358, .44 became .429, etc) however, the old traditional bore size names were kept. And, of course, bore diameter was reduced to match the new bullet diameters.

Because of both changes over the years, and marketing decisions, cartridge names have only a general relationship with the actual bullet/bore diameter.
 
Well, wait a minute. Can a select-fire rifle chambered for a full grown rifle caliber be an assault rifle, with or without a pistol grip?
 
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