Gun rights and Democratic rule cannot coexsist

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Snakes and democrats have alot in common. Some are filled with poison venom and some are not. Some do good in natures way but still cause problems when you get close to them:D :D When it comes to guns they spread their venom and get people killed.

However some good things have come from the old democrat party and that is why people still believe in them. The new party has changed in so many ways that old democrats ran away from them. Only people who have a special agenda are democrats today and look close at the death involved.

Democrats want abortion and have murdered over 10,000,000 babies since they got it. Democrats want to take away your ability of self defense with a gun and in those areas where they have suceeded you see high death rates compared to areas without gun control.

The democrat party used to be about making life better for us all and now they are about death or life without freedom.

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The new party has changed in so many ways that old democrats ran away from them. Only people who have a special agenda are democrats today and look close at the death involved.

The democrat party used to be about making life better for us all and now they are about death or life without freedom.

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You hit the nail on the head, 25! Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm glad there are at least a couple of us here who see the Democrat/socialist party for what it truly is.:D
 
I keep wanting to believe the Democratic party can get at least neutral on 2nd amendment issues. Sometimes, I even come close to being able to believe it.

Then I find this thread bouncing around the top of the page with the Kansas celebratory thread.

Good grief. If Gov. Kathleen Sebelius had made sufficient grumbly noises while signing the thing, even Jim and Sarah might have given her a pass.

But no, the (D) Gov. has to go down kicking and screaming every step of the way while the state house and senate over ride the veto. And over what? Allowing citizens with pristine records to do what hasn't been a problem in thirty-odd other states.

Sad.
 
Once again, more proof that Democrat politicians are antigun bigots

But no, the (D) Gov. has to go down kicking and screaming every step of the way while the state house and senate over ride the veto.
Once again, proof positive of my original assertion: Democrat politicians at the level of Governor or higher are pathalogically obsessed with disarming We The People and are not to be trusted regarding the Second Amendment due to their allegiance to the socialist political agenda.
I keep wanting to believe the Democratic party can get at least neutral on 2nd amendment issues. Sometimes, I even come close to being able to believe it.
Don't fall for their con job!
 
I was avoiding rejoining this thread but what the heck!

Except for some mild support of the RKBA, the conservatives Republicans are just a great threat to civil liberties as anyone. Most of the BOR means little to them. Give the great leader any power wants over your life if I can have a hi-cap mag.

If you are a social conservative and want such control but get to keep your gun, then you think they are fine and dandy.
 
Republicans are bad. Democrats are worse. Libertarians don't have a snowball's chance in hell. Not voting doesn't help.

So what do we do?
 
Just thought y'all might like to know, :p

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Glenn

We are all stuck between a rock and a hard spot when it come to todays politition. Seems we always have to vote for those who do the least damage to us rather than for a good person. We would have very few problems here in the USA if we just had polititions with the stones to do what's right for the nation rather than what needs to happen to get elected.

I can't vote for a democrat because they don't represent me as a white male heterosexual who believes in the constitution. The democrats have worked hard to discriminate against me while all the time taxing what money I do earn higher every year. They use the tyrany of political correctness to take away freedom of speech and murdered millions of babies through abortions. Yet they want to leave us defenseless against murders by taking our guns.


Republicans at least don't make it where I can't own a gun YET. However they too are ruining life for us at a rate that is un believable by our loseing jobs and giving away the country to globalist.

I got this from FAL board
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=165766

It is an explanation of how the country is set for a huge collapse and the republicans are doing it. I fear that with the fall of the economy will also create problems that our guns will be banned too. When things go bad they will go really bad.

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"Glenn

We are all stuck between a rock and a hard spot "


Can you say IRONY? lol, yeah, now that I think about it that was pretty immature. Sorry. And thats not hillary, it's chelsae.
 
I got this from FAL board
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=165766

It is an explanation of how the country is set for a huge collapse and the republicans are doing it. I fear that with the fall of the economy will also create problems that our guns will be banned too. When things go bad they will go really bad.
In a nutshell:
"[T]otal federal obligations at the end of September were $51 trillion," says Williams, "over four times the level of GDP. It is unprecedented for a major country to have its actual obligations so far out of whack."

Williams's conclusions about what comes next are grim. "The Fed will back the system with every dollar it can print. But of course that would go on top of what is already an uncontrolled federal deficit. The end result, when it does all come together, will be something akin to a hyperinflation, but at the same time you'll have also a very depressed economy. So there'll be an inflationary recession, which I think we're already beginning to get into."

Hitler's police state came into being following "hyperinflation and a very depressed economy." Maybe that's why the politicians have been so blatantly derelict in their duties to be fiscally responsible - it's just another way to usher in authoritarian rule.

So how do you prepare for a scenario where you are out of work and the money you do have is worthless?? Very scary.
 
So how will "The Government" rescue us when the chickens come home to roost?

It depends on who is in power. If the democrats get in they will force socialism down our throats. If the republicans get in they will use the bad times to make fortunes off people who are losing their shirts. In any case what you think you own now may just be gone in a short time. The Republicans have re-aranged bankruptcy laws to take advantage of the comming problem.

When it's at it's peak will be when you will want guns the most.

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I'm gonna recommend either a close & re-start for this thread, or a change of the subject line, because it's flawed from the get-go - what I mean is, the subject line suggests an inverse relationship between "Democratic" rule (a democracy form of government) and gun rights, when the OP actually meant conflict between "Democrat" rule (a particular party in a two-party system in the U.S. of A.), and gun rights. From that initial miscommunication, things can only degrade from there, as each of these entirely separate subjects are valid debatable subjects.
 
FirstFreedom
I'm gonna recommend either a close & re-start for this thread,

Well you have the freedom to do so but it takes the freedom of those who are here away. Free speech channeled isn't free speech and the thoughts expressed here are showing people how those thoughts lead us to an entire outlook.

If all you want in conversation about politics is someone to say "gun" then there is no reasoning as to how we get our opinions. I find myself less and less comming to a place where the freedom to express ones thoughts ,when they hurt no one, get stiffeled by buearcrats who demand everthing has to run a set course.

If you want a site to grow then give a civilized enviroment and the freedom of thoughts and expressions so people can read and learn. If you don't like what is said then delete the post so the rest of us can enjoy the conversation.

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I'm gonna recommend either a close & re-start for this thread, or a change of the subject line, because it's flawed from the get-go - what I mean is, the subject line suggests an inverse relationship between "Democratic" rule (a democracy form of government) and gun rights, when the OP actually meant conflict between "Democrat" rule (a particular party in a two-party system in the U.S. of A.), and gun rights. From that initial miscommunication, things can only degrade from there, as each of these entirely separate subjects are valid debatable subjects.

Wrong.

As I stated in post #94:
Okay, let's get this right: My original post was titled, "Democratic rule (that would mean rule by the Democratic party politicians, not Democracy - there is a difference) and the right to arms cannot coexsist."

Democracy is a form of government in which a people vote for what they want.

Newsflash: America is not a Democracy. Our Form of government is a Constitutional Republic. There is a world of difference.

Article IV, section 4 of the U.S. Constitution declares: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government..."

In a Constitutional Republic, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land - what the people - or a group of politicians - wants at the moment is not.

We have a Bill of Rights that guarantees our right to arms. Whether or not a certain group or groups wants that to be so is irrelevant. Whether or not 50.00000001% of the voters want that to be so is irrelevant. What a clique of 200 or so socialist/Democrat politicians want to impose on the 280 million of We The People is irrelevant.

In a Democracy, the will of the majority is forced on the minority. In a Republic, the rights of the minority carry just as much weight as the rights of the majority. As I said before, there's a world of difference.

Nazi Germany was a Democracy. The will of the majority (Germans) was forced on the minority (Jews, gypsies, etc.). In a Republic, the minority has the same rights and protections as the majority. The majority does not get to vote away the rights of the minority. Not so in a Democracy.

A Republican form of government is a representative form - we elect representatives to (allegedly:rolleyes: ) carry out the will of the people.

If the people want changes made to the Constitution, there is a prescribed way of making those changes. A 2/3 majority of the states must call for a Constitutional convention in which the representatives meet and discuss the proposed changes. Changes to the Constitution are not lawfully made by fiat, the demands of the majority, or the whim of officials - elected or non-elected.

My original assertion that "Democratic rule and the right to arms cannot coexsist" was made after observing the long history of Democratic politician's blatant attempts to disarm We The Pepole - attempts that are unconstitutional and unlawful under our form of government, a Constitutional Republic.

Democrat politicians at the national level are pathalogically obsessed with disarming We The People.
-If not, then why have they attempted to do so by trickery and stealth??
-If not, then why have their last two failed Presidential bids had as candidates two blatantly antigun bigots?
-If not, why does one of their luminaries openly wish for "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them (guns) all in" while the rest of the Democratic luminaries work unceasingly for that corrupt and unlawful goal?

It is obvious from listening to their words and looking at their deeds as well as looking at their voting histories that if given the power to do as they please - control of the House, the Senate and the White House - Democratic politicians will destroy our right to arms, even though doing so is unconstitutional and unlawful. They want what they want and they don't care about the rights of We The People.

That's why I made my original statement that "Democratic rule (meaning rule by Democratic politicians) and the right to arms cannot coexsist."

History proves this. And history cannot be denied.
 
As a Conservative, I don't think Gun Rights are a Democrat/Republican issue.
A New Jersey gun owner said the me "In this state, the Republicans are the
Liberals and the Democrats are the Socialists", in the Northeastern U.S. politics are skewed to the Left, as they are on the Pacific Coast, so the
choice in the voting booth is all too often merely Left and Far Left. There are
plenty of anti-gun Republicans-Bloomberg, Pataki, Giuliani come to mind, like
a pro life Democrat they are welcomed into the "Big Tent" in the interest of
winning elections.
 
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