Gun Grabbers At The Next Table --

see how they react when they realize pro-2nd people also frequent their favorite coffee haunts and express themselves.
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If they are adherents to Alinski, they will seek to have you banned from the establishment ...... failing that, they will seek to destroy the establishment, to replace it with one more to their liking.
 
I'm from Indiana. I obviously have enough money to buy guns and ammo, so I must not be that poor. I have an associates degree and am continuing my education while serving in the Marine Corps in the Intel community. I don't believe I fit their stereotypes very well.

As far as being paranoid goes, we live in a society full of paranoia. For instance, by our standards they were being extremely paranoid by erroneously fearing guns or people with guns. We are constantly being accused of paranoia for bearing arms in our homes or in public for the purpose of self defense, but are our opponents not being paranoid by assuming that we might turn on them? This argument would likely quickly be rejected by many as an attack on an individual's rationale.

Despite the above argument, a better argument for the less mentally adequate folks that may oppose us might be something related to every day scenarios. For instance, statistically you are about as likely to die in car accident as you are by a gunshot wound, but I bet those scholarly gentlemen wouldn't think twice about putting their seat belt on when they get in a car. How is that much different from me utilizing my firearm to protect my life?
 
I developed my own psy-war technique for dealing with those kinds of mind locked people. So I just start agreeing with them.

*Yes, we need to get rid of those things....all of them except for certain ones.
*Why does anybody need something capable of doing that?
*They don't need to hold so many of those thingies. Seven is plenty.
*Why do those people want such big ones? Little ones would be ok.
*So many people die because of them.
*I was attacked by a person with one. My freind died and I was in the hospital for a long time. (If I get a good reaction to that one, I add in: It makes me cry sometimes. I have nightmares about them)
*It's a waste of money for people to want them.
*Just think of how much tax money could be saved on hospital bills because of innocent people and kids getting hurt or killed by them.

If I get a good reaction to those comments, I might start getting all religous with a bunch of Hallelujahs, etc.

I control the conversation and just put the lightning strike on them. Then...and you have to time it just right to get the full effect...I say: Guns? I thought we were talking about cars! More innocent people are killed by cars than guns. Nobody needs a car that can go a 100 MPH. Nobody needs more than seven gallons of gas. Etc. etc... You give up your 3000 pound guided missle and I might give up my gun.....Then I pat my belly where my gun is and walk away smiling. Keep yer powder dry, Mac.
Tuff-Gun Finishes. The Name Says It All.
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I got one good the other day, he was spewing some preposterous nonsense about high capacity magazines (here in CO) and stating that they are only for killing lots of people.

I responded with "I know right, now only the government can have them, I know I feel better"

I'm really not sure what happened next I think his brain may have had a short circuit somewhere, but it was rather amusing to see the look on his face and lack of anything to say.
 
Good one ira!

I'm waiting for the chance to refute the "highest murder rate" thing that is always bandied about- it is true, so long as you don't count the 100's of millions of murders perpetrated by various governments in the last 100 years.

Remember, it takes a Government to truly put the "mass" in "massacre"!

Google "democide"......
 
White, male, northeastern by birth, northwestern for 36 years. "Marginally educated" by the public school system 40+ years ago, back when children were actully required to learn some things in order to graduate. No college degrees.

In the past 30+ years I have worked with a lot of people who have degrees of one kind or another. What this has taught me is that a piece of paper from some college prooves only that you did not flunk out. It doesn't mean you are intelligent, or even knowledgeable. You may be, but that paper doesn't mean squat, other than that you passed the course.

As for the anti's in the diner, I'd leave them alone. Sure, the best thing would be to open their eyes and their minds to the real world, but the odds are heavy against it. The most likely outcome of that would be their leaving to find a more "friendly" place, costing your diner the business. A less likely, but still possible result would be, as mentioned, them trying to get you kicked out, as you are a "dangerous gun nut", costing the diner your business, and costing you a nice place to hang out.

Its your call, but I no longer have the energy to bother, if they aren't in my face.
 
I was at my local Scheels yesterday and I saw a kid explaining to his girlfriend that those "long clips" on the wall were for "all them machine guns" everybody's been buying. Honestly...
 
That's why when i here people complaining about Piers Morgan and his anti gun views. I think that pro gun people should worry more about what some Americans think about firearms rather than the like of Piers Morgan. You did the right thing and said nothing. Most anti gun people have their minds made up, but that works both ways.
 
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The problem as I see it, manta, is that so many Americans get the only infor mation they have from Piers and his ilk, and their own echo chamber of friends...... and part of the reason is that most folks on our side simply want to be left alone (see 44AMP's post) .....

When confronted with a problem not "solved" for them by parroting some of their indoctrination, they are lost......
 
In the past 30+ years I have worked with a lot of people who have degrees of one kind or another. What this has taught me is that a piece of paper from some college prooves only that you did not flunk out. It doesn't mean you are intelligent, or even knowledgeable. You may be, but that paper doesn't mean squat, other than that you passed the course.
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I couldn't possibly agree more with you. Also, it may be pertinent to add that the vast majority of college degrees do not qualify your knowledge of firearms to be more valid than that of anyone else. Most people that work in the firearms field or are enthusiasts of firearms learn from experience or by trade. Someone's degree in agriculture or linguistics is unimportant beyond those fields in my opinion, but I am acutely aware of the modern social impression that graduating from college means you are of a higher class than people who have not graduated from college.
 
Xero, . . . in many circles, . . . I fit the
white, male, Southern, poor, and marginally educated
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First, . . . I'm proud of it, . . . as Popeye used to say, "I am what I am, and that's all what I am", . . . a reference to our inherent inability to control our parentages or pedigrees.

BUT, . . . I can also drop a deer at 130 yds with a muzzle loader, . . . I can completely and legally install a full electrical system, . . . plumbing system, . . . HVAC, . . . I can pour my own footings, lay my own block, build my own house from scratch, . . . I can build 75 + page Excel budget workbooks, . . . disassemble an Access Data Base and re-assemble it, . . . all the while I'm pastoring a little country church, playing husband and father in my family.

I've totally swapped out engine & drive trains in vehicles, . . . rebuilt motorcycles, . . . baked my own bread, . . . pies, . . . cakes, . . . welded my own wood burning stove together, . . .

Ask those two bit starbuck heads how far they can walk past facebook, twitter, and their government checks.

Yeah, . . . I'm a cranky old red-necked hill-billy, . . . not very well educated, . . . but I'm also smart enough not to have shallow pits of sewage like them for friends.

May God bless,
Dwight
 
You COULD also tell those folks generalizing about gun owners that they should realize if the SHTF the same people they are talking junk about would be the same ones that would likely be able to stay alive and fed while their criticizers ran around and died in a panic.
 
The problem as I see it, manta, is that so many Americans get the only infor mation they have from Piers and his ilk, and their own echo chamber of friends...... and part of the reason is that most folks on our side simply want to be left alone (see 44AMP's post)
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Don't get me wrong i can't stand Morgan. But if there is anyone to blame its the American media that seem not to be exactly pro gun. I am happy to talk to anti gun people here some do listen some you are wasting your time.
 
I've worked with quite a few degreed co-workers who could only charitably be considered 'marginally educated'. Visit their home and see not a single book or magazine in sight, with all information coming into the home being the Jon Stewart show or conversations with those who believe exactly the same belief system, none others.
 
Useful idjits, one and all. It's not the Southern Whites they have to worry about but those who are gang-bangers or on psych meds.
 
Well I'm white, I guess, a male obviously. Southern, I was born in South Jersey, does that count? Poor? I have no income but live off my savings, does that make one poor? Under educated well I was smart enough to have enough to be retired at 57. I did only achieve a high school education.
So I guess I'm an example of their stereotype.
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I've deleted a couple of posts. If we make sweeping, negative generalizations about people on the other side of this issue, we're guilty of exactly the same stereotyping described in the OP.
 
I'm white, southern, male, and struggling to attain a BA in poli sci.

And yet, in my day job I run a camp that overseas upwards of a million dollars in revenue each year.

In my other day job, I supervise a squad of heavily armed 18-20 year olds and a Bradley Fighting Vehicle.

Nice to be stereotyped because of the Romney sticker and fraterity letters on my truck, I tell you what.
 
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