Guess Old Devil Bush was RIGHT......

well not all we hear on tv is true

who knows really how many iraques voted

may be 10% who knows

as for bush

well he is convinced to pay every peny to military and leave any thing else.

even Habel telescope was a victim.









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Well, SB, lets look at his budget.. He signed off on 2000 border patrol agents. Now he only wants to fund 200. Cure america's education problems with the 'No child left behind", put up a paltry sum to fund it, and instead we dumb our kids down. Even Texas is finding poor results.

What he says and what he does rarely meet.
 
Well, I just don’t get it.

(1) Telling the U.N. to go pound sand with their international weapons ban because we have a Constitutional right to RKBA, (2) The AG announcing to the entire country that the Second Amendment is an individual right, (3) ending HUD buybacks of guns with taxpayers money, (4) supporting the lawsuit preemption bill, and (5) partially repealing the Clinton ban on import of some semi-auto parts, etc., etc. are all peanuts ?

But, at the same time, Bush announcing that if the awb renewal ever came across his desk, he would sign it, is the coming of the Apocalypse ?

Are you saying that if we had to do it over again, you would trade acceptance of the U.N. gun for Bush saying that if the AWB came across his desk he would not sign it ? After all, the U.N. gun ban rejection was just ... peanuts.
 
Yep; peanuts.

Get us out of the "United Nations" - it is a global criminal organization hostile to the Constitution of the United States and our (as well as everyone else's) sovereignty.

Instruct the AG to cease the prosecutions of all unconstitutional gun laws.

Eliminate the socialist programs and spending of our Federal government both at home and overseas. Stop stealing my money and giving it away to people and programs to support them, both here and overseas.

George Bush has it within his power to do these three things with pen strokes, phone calls and verbal command. They are all within the authority and mandate of the Executive branch. He is either loyal to this country, People and Constitution - or he is not. It is one or the other. I contend the latter, that his loyalties lie elsewhere.
 
Ahhh ... now I get you. I was griping that your minimizing Mr. Roberts’ list of this administration’s accomplishments was inconsistent with your blowing out of proportion the promise to renew AWB. Now I see that there is a consistency: you’re taking the idealistic approach that the government should immediately renounce any action or inaction that retracts from our Second Amendment rights. And I can’t argue with that; you’re right, the government should do that.

You’ll never be satisfied with any president, which is okay, too, and probably a good thing.

I’m taking a more pragmatic view. I see Mr. Roberts’ list as potentially the Turning of the Tide. Bush is the first president that I recall actually undoing firearms restrictions, and I doubt that Kerry would have stood up to the U.N. on the global weapons ban issue. What you see as peanuts I see as the pendulum turning back.
 
Sorry I haven't been back in awhile. I was laid low by dreaded pnumonia, no doubt placed by the democratic left in an attempt to silence me. :D

Seriously tho, it seems that this thread, much like the hopes and dreams of the liberal left, is dead........long live Emperor Bush! :D
 
Get us out of the "United Nations" - it is a global criminal organization hostile to the Constitution of the United States and our (as well as everyone else's) sovereignty.
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I would generally agree with you, but, (there's always one of those, isn't there?) can you imagine how much worse it would be if we, and our veto authority, were not there? I can't, either.
 
Destructo6,

Funny you should bring this up. This ties in quite closely with our subject on another thread.

There has not been, is not, currently, a single nation on earth that could or can outpace us technologically in the realm of arms - or a tangible strategic defense. If we cease aiding them with our techology, and giving away our money and resources.

As the dominant military superpower, could we care less whether we have a "veto" on the board of a criminal organization which is hostile to our our own national ideology - our Constitution - and culture?

You can not dance with the devil and walk away. The United Nations must be opposed, or surrendered to in whole. For eventually it will swallow us up. And if anyone doubt this, consider the term that will be used to describe us if we try to "hold out" on any key issues.

Isolationist. ;)
 
LAK:
As the dominant military superpower, could we care less whether we have a "veto" on the board of a criminal organization which is hostile to our our own national ideology - our Constitution - and culture?

You can not dance with the devil and walk away. The United Nations must be opposed, or surrendered to in whole. For eventually it will swallow us up. And if anyone doubt this, consider the term that will be used to describe us if we try to "hold out" on any key issues.
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Man. You are so fun to argue with, then you gotta go and say something I agree with. You have to try not to do that..... :)
 
even Habel telescope was a victim.
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When you look at the stunning mass of knowledge and advancement that has (and still does) come from the Hubble telescope, it's abandonement is a crime against humanity... and to do it at a time when we are flushing billions and billions away on the Iraqi sink hole is truly a testimony on priorities... $5 billion was burned on the supercollider in the desert which was never even built, but the Hubble has exceeded all expectations by a thousand fold.

What a waste.
 
Unfortunately, the cost of Hubble upkeep is such that the science community is wondering if they should just replace it with something better. The chances of years of work grinding to a halt between it's death and the new one isn't very appetizing though.

On the upside, I was hoping they would put more energy into a remote piloted robot to do repairs.
 
A lot of time and effort could be spent on the obsolescent Hubble, but exactly what would be the point? Oh, that's right, the Chicken Littles of the world would have one less thing to cackle about. Big deal.

The fact of the matter is that the 30 year old technology on Hubble will be replaced with the technology that has eclipsed Hubble "a thousand fold" in the past 3 decades since the inception of the Hubble project. That is as it should be. Like all things under the Sun those who can will, while those who cackle... will. Nothing new about that.

The chances of years of work grinding to a halt between it's death and the new one isn't very appetizing though.
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N.A.S.A. could have all of its extra-planetary hardware break tomorrow, and still have decades of work sifting through the data that they have already collected. Bunches of things yet to be learned from all of the heretofore unresearched data. Of course that isn't as sexy as the latest whiz-bang gagetry, and the actual work it would entail would leave little time to whine about the "lack of current funding" and so of course we can see that there is little fun in that.

Better to cry about the sky falling and whatnot. :rolleyes: :barf:
 
For being obsolete, its still takes much better pictures than anything else currently out there. It's replacement isn't due to be finished until 2010 I believe. If it didn't take so much to just get up there to replace parts, I'd support repairing it.

As for funding.. who wants to go to Mars and yet can't swing squat to pay for it?
 
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