Gripe alert - metal stamping!
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Driftwood Johnson
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If you look very carefully, I have edited out the last two digits of the SN. It is 1358XX.
thank you Driftwood, nice pics, nice gun.
Not a commercial gun. SO, no "govt model" marking would be on it.
According to what I have been able to find, the "Govt Model" marking began about ser# C3000, on the frame, and was moved to the slide about #C5000.
This puts the beginning of "Govt Model" markings on guns intended for the civilian market at 1912-13.
I also note the British spelling of the word "caliber". There were guns made for Britain in .45ACP. Apparently not all were shipped, and yours likely was taken into US service instead. Alternately, quite possible a slide marked for a "British" gun wound up being assembled into a USGI pistol.
One thing I have learned about firearms, markings, dates made, etc, is never say never.
As noted, the 1912 catalogue does not mention the term "Govt Model", but the 1940 one (the next one I could find) absolutely does, naming the pistol the Govt Model.
So, I stand by my GENERAL statement that the 1911s and 1911A1s made by Colt, intended for the civilian market were (generally) marked "Government Model" But, I also recognize that any, and every variation is possible.
Not a commercial gun. SO, no "govt model" marking would be on it.
According to what I have been able to find, the "Govt Model" marking began about ser# C3000, on the frame, and was moved to the slide about #C5000.
This puts the beginning of "Govt Model" markings on guns intended for the civilian market at 1912-13.
I also note the British spelling of the word "caliber". There were guns made for Britain in .45ACP. Apparently not all were shipped, and yours likely was taken into US service instead. Alternately, quite possible a slide marked for a "British" gun wound up being assembled into a USGI pistol.
One thing I have learned about firearms, markings, dates made, etc, is never say never.
As noted, the 1912 catalogue does not mention the term "Govt Model", but the 1940 one (the next one I could find) absolutely does, naming the pistol the Govt Model.
So, I stand by my GENERAL statement that the 1911s and 1911A1s made by Colt, intended for the civilian market were (generally) marked "Government Model" But, I also recognize that any, and every variation is possible.
jackmoser65
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Had nothing to do with settling lawsuits but Ruger has been doing it since 1978. Get over it already.
FWIW, at that period and for some years afterward, Colt spelled the word "calibre". I understand Colt has been asked why and no one today knows the answer. It was probably just an affectation or an attempt to make a Colt product seem a bit more "classy." All guns marked that way used that spelling; it had nothing to do with those intended for sale in Britain.
As others said, the Ruger marking certainly did have to do with a lawsuit. But I do agree with the "get over it" advice.
Jim
As others said, the Ruger marking certainly did have to do with a lawsuit. But I do agree with the "get over it" advice.
Jim
jackmoser65
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Citation please.
WhatRecoil
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I want the Trademarks
From companies I respect, use and carry. Personally I find it a pain in the butt when you spend $$$.$$ on a combat knife and the company doesn't have the faith in thier own product to emboss it in a manner that Semichrome polish wont remove!! And I AM AWARE OF THE STERILE BLADE DEAL OK
I totally understand that. Rugers are like Glocks. They get it done. They're pretty to those of us who understand the fact that function is a beautiful thing. Do I like all the kiddie warnings that tell you not to spill boiling coffee on your happy parts?? NO but I drink hell outa some good COFFEE!
From companies I respect, use and carry. Personally I find it a pain in the butt when you spend $$$.$$ on a combat knife and the company doesn't have the faith in thier own product to emboss it in a manner that Semichrome polish wont remove!! And I AM AWARE OF THE STERILE BLADE DEAL OK
I totally understand that. Rugers are like Glocks. They get it done. They're pretty to those of us who understand the fact that function is a beautiful thing. Do I like all the kiddie warnings that tell you not to spill boiling coffee on your happy parts?? NO but I drink hell outa some good COFFEE!