Great poster from www.guntruths.com

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Look, here, let me make a couple points on this thread that has gone on for way too long anyway.

Point 1: There is a line of common decency past which the immorality of showing a certain image offsets the usefulness of the intended message, no matter how true or worthy the message itself.

Showing helpless ladies, being lead to the slaughterhouse under the violating look of a male Nazi soldier, forcibly naked (and thus stripped of their dignity even in death) more than surpasses this line - and it really boggles my mind how anybody with an iota of conscience or sensibility cannot see this in all its macroscopic truth.

Point 2: To suggest that someone like Italiano, whose very family (note, not "race", or "people", but "family") was decimated by Nazis, does not have the right to express a sentiment of outrage at the political use of such a sacred image, is arrogant and wrong.

What if that last lady in the picture, almost struggling to keep up with the grim line, helpless in her nakedness and desperate, truly desperate in her last loveless moments was your grandmother/aunt/wife/mother? Do you realize the absurdity of what you are saying? Would you feel comfortable using that image to prove a political point?

I will say no more about this, but for God's sake, there are some images that are too sacred, intimate and tragic to be used for any purposes.

Those ladies have suffered way more than any of us ever will. To replay their last tragic violation as a means to any goal is immoral before any objective tribunal of decent humanity.
 
“ … There is something that makes absoloutely no sense in all this. How is this a 'reality check'? How do millions of mothers and children and husbands shipped off to a death camp and treated like animals compare to the state of affairs in the USA? … “

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I do not like the photos … and I will not look on them again.

I do; however, believe that history is replete with examples of horrors that befall people, (at the hands of their own governments no less), who are disarmed. The poster in question is an answer to those who would deny that these historical events are repeatable.

All that is required for such things to happen in our own Nation is that good people do nothing.

The one true barrier against Tyrants and horrific deeds is an armed populace. Being that enough citizens in our country are currently armed the poster dose not compare to the state of affairs in the USA as it is today. The intellectual link is obvious; however, that if the Million Mom Marchers have their way the citizens of the USA will be disarmed. Such a scenario would leave us “wishing” rather then “insuring” that such things can never happen here.

If we are disarmed what stops it from happening here ?



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Scott:
I agree with your point. It is something I have not denied. There isn't a line in your thought that does not match what I feel.
The sole point of my comments lies in the link of the two events, and in the title chosen for such a significant picture. I think both are belittling of the magnitude of horror suffered by millions.
Is it necessary to remember history to avoid its mistakes? Absolutely!
Is the German Holocaust a living, burning proof that an anarmed populace is vulnerable from any sort of illegitimate attack? Most certainly.
Does gun control pose a threat to not only the infringement of our Constitutional rights, but also to the security of this great Nation? Without a doubt.
But please, folks, PLEASE: do not confuse two very different scenes (the slaughter of Jewish women in a concentration camp, and the MMM) and do not offend me and millions of others by slapping on such compelling image a Madison Avenue slogan, and then posting it on the WWW for all to see. It does not help anyone. It only offends. Let's make the same point with less pyrotechnic butades.
 
102K. Closed.

Since there are a few new members posting in this thread I will explain.

It is customary on The Firing Line to close threads when they reach about 100K or so. Any larger than that and it becomes very time-consuming to load on the typical home computer.

If anyone would like to start a Part 2, feel free.


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