Governor or Judge?

Mae quality control is hit and miss, but they seem to be of good quality. I've looked at many new and used. And the trigger is excellent in my circuit judge. Heck, I even shoot it one handed all of the time. It's a rifle, but there is almost no recoil.
 
I think .410 is a fine defensive load - assuming you are going to be attacked by snakes or rabbits.

While it certainly could kill a human (almost anything *could*), it does not meet the basic FBI penetration requirements. At least I've never seen a load that could. Even some .380s will meet that. There are plenty of low recoil options that are superior for self defense.


So I'll add my +1 for whomever suggested a used Smith .38.
 
RANGER94 said:
I am getting interested in a Governor or Judge strictly for home defense. I like the .410 option for my wife when I am away traveling for business. Which would you recommend and why?
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Both are very, very poor choices for self-defense. You would be much better off with a real firearm - not a toy. Since you said "home", I would suggest an easy to handle 20ga shotgun - you can pick up a used Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 for $200 or less. If you are bent on a handgun, there are a plethora of revolvers and pistols that are much better weapons and more likely to fit your wife.

The Weatherby SA-08 and the Mossberg SA-20 are example of slim, lightweight, easy to handle 20ga shotguns. And a 20ga shotgun is a real weapon, not a toy.
 
I think the .410-.45 combo revolvers are a terrible choice for defense. Marketing and flash, no substance. Usually poor penetration, patterns that spread too wide, etc.

If you must, get the Governor. I trust a well-made pocket knife over a Taurus.

I advise a heavy frame weapon with a light round for your wife, if it's one she tries and finds comfortable. A larger Smith .38 with non-+p loads, a Beretta 92FS 9mm, etc.

Thanks for your service, and happy shopping.
 
20ga and 12ga shotgun's are very big and long. In close quarters it's easy for a perp to take it out of your hands and shove it up your....:rolleyes:

I personally like my carry gun, a S&W 638 .38spl snub, nothing to grab onto. Or,... my Ruger SP101 .357 3". "Make my day!"

So,....my answer is non-Taurus.:D
 
Been there done that

My better half (not the wife yet) was hell bent on having a firearm for her own protection. She knew I carry and was all about doing the same thing. She fell for the marketing hype and wanted one of those judge things so badly.

I convinced her to come shooting with me and learn how to handle my charter .38 revolver. She got to be good with it. Also realized that she could conceal it better. She now owns the same gun and carries it every day. I have no issue thinking that she can handle the gun and defend herself if needed.

It did not take millions of hours of range time. BTW
 
Not for the main gun, as a car/back up gun yes.

And intill someone gets who with a 410 and a 9mm to compare thats stupid... There was a shooting that a man used to kill some robber in a shoplifting.
 
At least no one is buying the Judges and Govenors and are reading what we say on this thread. I heard Taurus is going bankrupt because no one is buying the Judge..
 
Walklightly said:
20ga and 12ga shotgun's are very big and long. In close quarters it's easy for a perp to take it out of your hands and shove it up your....
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Ideally someone is not clearing their house themselves, but rather taking concealment behind their bed with the gun and a phone (already dialed to 911) in hand, so retention shouldn't be an issue. I think the ease of use and control of a longarm would more than make up for any possible retention difficulties doing CQB.
 
not wanting to be mean and drop brown bombs on anyones parade but,,,,

if a shotgun is the ideal homedefense weapon, why is every magazine and company telling me that i need to use reduced power buckshot loads that have slightly less energy per pellet then the 000 buckshot loads in the judges 2 inch barrel?

come on, remingtons big new home defense specialty load is just plated BBs that most people consider completely redundant and "not gonna do anything useful for the shooter" when they talk about the winchester pdx1 410 loads.

so think on that.
 
Newton24b said:
not wanting to be mean and drop brown bombs on anyones parade but,,,,

if a shotgun is the ideal homedefense weapon, why is every magazine and company telling me that i need to use reduced power buckshot loads that have slightly less energy per pellet then the 000 buckshot loads in the judges 2 inch barrel?

come on, remingtons big new home defense specialty load is just plated BBs that most people consider completely redundant and "not gonna do anything useful for the shooter" when they talk about the winchester pdx1 410 loads.

so think on that.
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Gun companies and magazines are simply trying to sell you their wares. They'll say whatever they can get away with.
 
50 BMG would be most likely your best bet ...or call in a air raid..those intruders are CIA trained armored killers ,armed with AR's & AK's and throwing hand grenades ...most likely the shoot out will requires the most expensive guns Hi-Cap mags...just like on TV :D


now lets be realistic :rolleyes:

Federal 410 Handgun Ammunition 000 Buck... has the ability to stop a attack.... fast

Being shot with a 000 buck load is equal to getting shot with 4 380 's at one time ..4 wound channels ..with one shot...2nd shot makes 8 wound channels....VS two wound channels...with a 38 or 9mm or 40

Being a Xray Tech for 30 years and a Level 1 trauma nurse for 8 years (now behind a desk).. I know the human anatomy ,I can not only imagine how a human body would respond to such a trauma .. I know.. Total system failure with two hits (8 wound channels) to the torso ..heart lungs , liver, spleen ..all jeopardized with just two hits.. at 7 ft the 000 Buck shot will totally penetrate a large male making a 2 to 3 inch hole straight through them..
 
000 Buck pellets fired from a 2in. barreled Judge penetrated through 5 layers of clothing through 4 milk jugs of water ...thats 5 layers of clothing 7 layers of plastic and 24 inches of water....

This test was done by " Shooting Times Magazine "

Hornady FTX 185 gr 45 colt only made it to the third jug...
 
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