Glock's accidental discharge in royal presence

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Casey

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Has anyone else heard the latest about the dangerous Glocks? Apparently one discharged itself onboard the Royal train while the Queen and Prince Phillip were in the next car.

How can these dangerous Glocks keep selling, and why do law enforcement agencies keep buying these dangerous weapons?

Just kidding!!!! Please, no flames from the church of Glock fanatics!! It does make you wonder how these people get to carry weapons in the Royal presence without proper training. But then again, maybe that's not fair; everyone has made mistakes (I sure have), but this poor guy has his problems exposed to the world.

Casey
 
Well remember when Bush went to visit in Saudi. The SS made us all remove ammo, and in some cases firing pins.
 
No, actually this is the second "accidental" discharge in a week in the presence of the Queen.

Casey
 
This particular member of the Royal Protection Squad was removing his Glock so that he could have a nice stretch and yawn session when the 9mm discharged into a table top, he then panicked when trying to make the gun safe and fired a second round into the carriage floor.

Glock's fire too easily, I've said it before and I'll keep saying it every time a cop kills one of his buddies by accident in the locker room.
 
>>>>Glock's fire too easily, I've said it before and I'll keep saying it every time a cop kills one of his buddies by accident in the locker room<<<<<

Uh, yeah, they just go off unexpectedly when you pull the trigger. I don't own any Glocks but I've noticed the same bizarre phenomena with other guns. I load them up and then if I pull the trigger theres a loud noise and a BULLET fies out of the muzzle. Its just insane!

Has this happened to anybody else?




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Keith
The Bears and Bear Maulings Page: members.xoom.com/keithrogan
 
I never carry bullets in a gun when I carry it! I leave them locked in a different location. It is the only safe way to carry a gun.

If I ever feel the need to use the gun, I'll just go to whereever I locked up the bullets(if I can remeber where I put them), load the gun , rack the slide, and tell the aggressor that if he does not desist from this activity I may have to point my gun at him/her. Although if he refuses I may have to turn and run away so I do not violate any of his Civil Rights! :eek:

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"Millions for defense, not one dime for tribute!"
 
Keith,

Yea, that keeps happening to me. Every time I pull my trigger, it discharges! Go figures. It ALWAYS happens to my Glock G17.

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Ben Lee
Student, Senior
Computer Science
Mississippi State University
Fear the man that owns only one rifle,
he likely knows how to use it.
- Anonymous
 
So you'd be happy carrying a cocked revolver with a 1 pound trigger pull and no trigger guard, sure a bullet flies out of the end when the trigger is pulled, but the mode of operation and type of design makes that far too likely for such a weapon to be a serious proposition.

Whilst Glocks are by no means such an extreme example as the one above, I, and I might add, many others feel that the opposing considerations of safety and ease of operation have been too heavily weighted in favor of the latter in the case of the Glock. Sure you'll disagree, you bought one, and in the eyes of the hen the chick can ne'er do wrong etc etc. All I can say is that if you ever adopt my viewpoint let it be through reason and not experience.

Regards,

Mike H
 
God,Holy Jesus!!!! Is that what happens when I squeeze that little trigger thingee on my G19??? :confused: I thought that a voice chip inside the thing was just supposed to say "bang" loudly. That's what happened when I was in training for the Royal Protection Squad!!! :confused: :confused:

(Ed. note: Great Britain no longer does "live fire" excerises.)

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BOYCOTT SMITH AND WESSON!!!
Defend the Constitution from the foreign threat!!!!

Yeah, I got a permit to carry,it's called the friggin Constitution.---Ted Nugent

"Man killing is nasty business"---Finn Aggard
 
I own lots of difference types of guns, 1911s, Glocks, revolvers, Sigs, Berettas etc and when I pull the damned trigger, they had better go bang or they or sold. Its a training issue, a mechanical device can not protect a fool/incompentant from himself.

7th

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SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL POLICE, KEEP THEM INDEPENDENT.
 
7th - Hell yea. I'm the same way.

Mike - I didn't mean to sound trite. I have to deal with uninformed people all the time about Glock being SO unsafe when in reality they are the safest guns on the planet. A Glock, I would say, is for someone that knows what the hell they are doing with a pistol. It is NOT a beginner pistol. I'm a little more careful with my G17. I never have a round chambered until I need that round. There is just too many quality handguns out there now. I just prefer German stuff.

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Ben Lee
Student, Senior
Computer Science
Mississippi State University
Fear the man that owns only one rifle,
he likely knows how to use it.
- Anonymous
 
finger on trigger--BANG!
no finger on trigger---no bang

I agree with the opinion that the Glock is not necessarily the best sidearm for the novice. In the hands of the well-trained, ND's should be rare indeed (as with any weapon, really). It's hilarious that so many agencies who won't let their people carry the 1911 because it's "unsafe" (probably "politically incorrect" is more accurate, esp cocked-and-locked) then let them carry Glocks.

I know ND's/AD's happen in with LEO's somewhat often-- my opinion is that daily carry can breed complacency and carelessness.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN---from an accidental gunshot wound!

[This message has been edited by Covert Mission (edited June 16, 2000).]
 
Para el amor de dios! Observe the third friggin cardinal rule of guns and keep the finger OFF! the trigger until you wish to launch a round. You know, think before you do. Be a Lert, the world needs more Lerts!
 
"sophomoric silliness"?

Well, this is The Firing Line, eh? :D

It is interesting to note that after 18 years of LFI classes, they recently had their first and only ND... with an STI 1911!

Obviously those 1911s just "fire too easily".

Hmmm..... :D

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Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!
 
Except for the occasional mechanical misfunction, negligent discharges are caused by human error. I've carried cocked and locked pistols for years, often just stuck in my trouser band. I've never had one go off in my britches, possibly because I live in fear of the possibility.
The "safe" aspect of any mechanical device tends to lull one into a false sense of security, I feel. On that note, the action type I have found to have the greatest number of AD's/ND's is the double-single action pistol. Once the weapon is cocked, it must either be decocked or handled in "ready to fire" mode; but the mindset is still set on "double-action safe".

It's all in training and paying attention, in any event. Much like driving in public.

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Archie
 
Poor man....pistols banned in UK overall and ranges closed etc, the poor man simply didn't have enough training.
I bet he is put off the cushy royal circus gravy train now, which is a pity... as he is probably now the most experienced pistolero in UK outside the SAS !!! :p

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A thought from 'Big Bunny'...."The sword does not kill, it is a tool in the hands of the killer".... Seneca 'the younger' (circa AD 35)
 
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