glock saved the 10mm.

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griffin12aaa

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Who else thinks that if it werent because of glock the mighty 10 would be (almost) dead??

Also I wonder why glock is the only 10 mm poly gun out there..

Any thoughts anyone.
 
I have and i know the 10 has some diehard loyal followers. But if it werent for glock handguns that shoot the 10 are somewhat limited and cost three arms.
 
Meanwhile in California. . .

If it weren't for Glock, the 10mm Auto would be dead in California. Only the Gen-3 G20 and G29 are available here - save for a Kimber 1911.

And I have both, btw ;) The 10mm Auto is an awesome cartridge. My favorite semi-auto round - bar none.
 
I always thought the Colt Delta Elite was the only pistol chambered in 10mm folllowing the failed launch of the Bren 10, making it the savior of the 10mm.
At least that's the way I seem to remember it.
 
EAA makes an all poly 10mm and it cost less than a glock . As for other manufacturers: Colt, S&W, STI, Kimber, Dan Wesson, Night Hawk Costom all make the 10mm.
 
The only thing about 10 mil ....

.... I never see great amounts of ammo in stores. That in no way diminishes what a great round it is for all purposes.

I love the idea of the 610 S&W where you can shoot 10 and .40 in the same gun.

Pico
 
Despite people it may rub the wrong way, I think that's likely a true or at least somewhat true statement. Even with the Glock the 10mm is still a pretty niche cartridge, I've met one person ever who shot it who wasn't on the Internet.
 
The Delta Elite saved the 10mm but that was a while ago and one can argue that Glock is a large part of keeping it alive today. Glock is the only mainstream production 10mm everything else is a nitch gun. If it wasnt for Glock new shooters might not be aware of the caliber.
 
If it wasnt for Glock new shooters might not be aware of the caliber.
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Nope, when I began looking for 10mm the Glock never showed up on my radar. My search started and ended with the EAA Witness. I had to Google Glock 20 after I read about it on TFL. Shocker, it looks like every other Glock.
 
EAA makes a 10 mil poly cool ill have to check that one out.

Just to let you guys know im not trashing the 10 mil at all.
 
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I think it is accurate that both the Delta Elite and the Glock saved the 10mm. The Delta Elite did it the first time, and if it hadn't been produced, we'd probably not be discussing this subject.

However, I think it's wholly accurate that Glock absolutely saved the 10mm after the Delta Elite dried up. At that point, Colt could barely save itself, let alone the 10mm. Glock building a gun around it when Smith & Wesson practically tried to kill it off is, IMO, absolutely the single reason that we still have the 10mm around today.
 
The Delta Elite (1987-96) (reintroduced 2009-present) & S&W 10x6 series kept things on life support until Glock made the G20.
The DE was Expensive...G-20 coming out at 450-500 was reasonable. LEO/FD paid less.
That's what keeps non-standard cartridges alive long enough to become standard, inexpensive guns to fire 'em.

Once Glock made it affordable to own a 10mm chambered pistol, it breathed new life into 10mm.
Right now there are no less than 14 manufacturer's, including ARMSCOR, that currently make a 10mm pistol.
 
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Yes they did.

There are a handful of others out there, but only the Glock and the now discontinued S&W 1006 series have proven capable of being durable enough to work reliably. All of the others including the 1911's have had numerous issues. The Colt was the only option briefly, but it had so many problems it wasn't much of a factor. Glock is the only real option for a new production gun that has proven to be reliable. And the only 15+1 round option. I'd like to find a 1006 someday, but they are selling for a lot more than I'm willing to pay.
 
The 1911's, including the DE, had problems due to using a .45acp frame instead of one specifically designed for the power of the 10mm cartridge.
Most of those changed things by 2005, so all the new ones are supposed to be solid and the slide stops don't crack out.

There is one other Oldie but Goody that handled 10mm well, that was the Star Megastar in 10mm :)
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I agree with sevens; the Delta Elite saved it first, and the Glock has kept the fire lit for it. For what it is worth, the 29 is the only Glock I would even want because it IS 10mm. I almost purchased it this latest go round of gun lust, but decided on the XDm 3.8 that I will shoot 45 Super out of when I want the extra oomph. Oh how I wish Springfield would come out with an XD line of 10mm. I think it would sell very well.
 
Wilson Combat makes a pretty robust 1911 10mm. Admittedly expensive though. But that just comes from being a high end 1911, not from being 10mm.

If you want a swamp gun for hogs, gators and such, hard to argue against the Glock.
 
The Bren Ten from Thomas Dornaus and Michael Dixon are the first ones to have produced the 10mm gun and cartridge for it, with the guidance of Jeff Cooper 1983-1984. Had the company not failed (thats a whole nother story) it maybe even more popular.

FBI seeking a better cartridge/gun studied the 10mm at the time, thus bringing it into the pages of magazines and its limelight.

The Glock 20, introduced in 1990-1991, was developed for the then-growing law enforcement and security forces market for the 10mm Auto.

The Glocks back then were the first plastic guns, many were afraid that they would not hold up.

S&W had it line of 3rg gens 1988, 10xx series guns from 1989 (FBI) and 1990-1993

Smith & Wesson 10mm pistols
1006 - 26,979 units produced 1990-93
1076 - 13,805 units produced 1990-93
1066 - 5,067 units produced 1990-92
1026 - 3,135 units produced 1990-91
1086 - 1,660 units produced 1990-92
1046 - 151 units produced 1991 (only)

Colt had brought out the Delta Elite in 1987 it was said to be the gun that kept the cartridge alive.

However there were some die hard guys that enjoyed the cartridge and keep it going, handloaders understood the ballistics of this great cartridge and continued to supply themselves (me included).
Mike McNett started his Double Tap Ammo company loading the 10mm to hotter loadings than most all ammo companies of the time and that is what kept the 10mm cartridge going.

Glock and Colt were the only ones selling guns chambered for 10mm after S&W stopped production in 1994 so it can be argued either way which kept the 10mm alive. Colt had stopped producing the Delta Elite 1996 and Glock had continued on ever since its started.

By the way there are still other guns chambered for 10mm which include the Tanfoglio EAA line of 10mm. Those discontinued S&W guns are still going strong and are still taking a pounding too. The shame is S&W is not providing any parts any more of any of their 3rd gen guns...:(

If anyone is interested in more history of the 10mm I would suggest going to this site and do some reading...http://www.bren-ten.com/website/id7.html

If you want to find out more for the many enthusiast that still cherish the 10mm guns and the ballistics of the cartridge I would suggest the 10mmfirearms forum here; http://10mm-firearms.com/index.php
 
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