Glock Flunks Reliability Test
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I hope I don't over simplify this but I feel like I'm the only one seeing the silliness here.
If I tell you that a .50 cal rifle makes a bigger hole than a 9mm pistol would anyone argue that fact?
I have also heard that being in an accident while driving a tank is less dangerous then while in a Toyota.
The 1911 is a bigger gun, mostly in weight, than a Glock. With that weight comes heavier everything. Heavier barrel, frame, firing pin, SPRINGS.
The fact that the firing pin strikes harder is not news, that comes with being bigger.
The purpose of a Glock is to be a light weight combat handgun. For that purpose they have been proven beyond any juvenille back yard/local range test.
With CORRECTLY loaded ammo, Glock is one of the finest, if not the finest combat gun out there.
If I want to carry a gun on my waist that weighs 3 pounds and will fire everything to include a turnip green I'll carry a 1911. Of course I will still have to modify it so it will feed reliably.
On the other hand, I can carry a light weight combat gun that will fire and feed correct ammo with 100% reliability. Glocks downfall is it won't shoot a turnip green.
If I tell you that a .50 cal rifle makes a bigger hole than a 9mm pistol would anyone argue that fact?
I have also heard that being in an accident while driving a tank is less dangerous then while in a Toyota.
The 1911 is a bigger gun, mostly in weight, than a Glock. With that weight comes heavier everything. Heavier barrel, frame, firing pin, SPRINGS.
The fact that the firing pin strikes harder is not news, that comes with being bigger.
The purpose of a Glock is to be a light weight combat handgun. For that purpose they have been proven beyond any juvenille back yard/local range test.
With CORRECTLY loaded ammo, Glock is one of the finest, if not the finest combat gun out there.
If I want to carry a gun on my waist that weighs 3 pounds and will fire everything to include a turnip green I'll carry a 1911. Of course I will still have to modify it so it will feed reliably.
On the other hand, I can carry a light weight combat gun that will fire and feed correct ammo with 100% reliability. Glocks downfall is it won't shoot a turnip green.
Wild Romanian
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Final Conclusions
Based on all the historical and personal info and the tests that I myself conducted I have determined the following conclusions are valid.
The 1911 has the more reliable inginition system not the weak anemic striker fired system of the Glock.
The 1911 will work with all types of ammo, commercial, military and reloads including some defective ammo and the Glock will not because of its weaker striker fired system. The tests and also the personal experiences of other people on this forum proved this beyond any reasonable doubt.
While it is true that Glocks will work with the right commercial ammo they are not to be relied on under extemely rugged circumstances such as found in combat when the pisol would be subjected to dirt , mud , freezing temperatures, hard military type primers, lack of proper cleaning or defective ammo.
The test was simple and was valid. A weapon that will not fire a high primer is indeed the inferior type of ignition system. It does not take an engineer to understand this premis. Primers vary in their sensitivity even from the same batch made on the same day.
Now let me ask you a question. If you attempted to fire a round out of your pistol in an emergency would you feel more comfortable with the crushing blow to that primer that a 1911 would impart or would you take a chance on the very weak and anemic blow of the striker fired Glock and then hope that the weak primer would indeed fire. Common sense dictates any level headed individual concerned with his or hers own survival would go with the stronger ignition system of the 1911.
History is on th 1911's side, it was our service pistol through all major and minor wars in the last 100 years. Compare this history to the Glock (what little there is of it.)
You can bet your life on a sure thing or take a chance on a newer designed pistol that was not designed by an AMERICAN FOR AMERICANS AND FOR THE COUNTRY OF AMERICA.
Or you can choose the foreign designed Glock. The choice is yours.
I will choose to be on the side of History and of John Browning and the wisdom of the Forfathers of our country. W.R.
Based on all the historical and personal info and the tests that I myself conducted I have determined the following conclusions are valid.
The 1911 has the more reliable inginition system not the weak anemic striker fired system of the Glock.
The 1911 will work with all types of ammo, commercial, military and reloads including some defective ammo and the Glock will not because of its weaker striker fired system. The tests and also the personal experiences of other people on this forum proved this beyond any reasonable doubt.
While it is true that Glocks will work with the right commercial ammo they are not to be relied on under extemely rugged circumstances such as found in combat when the pisol would be subjected to dirt , mud , freezing temperatures, hard military type primers, lack of proper cleaning or defective ammo.
The test was simple and was valid. A weapon that will not fire a high primer is indeed the inferior type of ignition system. It does not take an engineer to understand this premis. Primers vary in their sensitivity even from the same batch made on the same day.
Now let me ask you a question. If you attempted to fire a round out of your pistol in an emergency would you feel more comfortable with the crushing blow to that primer that a 1911 would impart or would you take a chance on the very weak and anemic blow of the striker fired Glock and then hope that the weak primer would indeed fire. Common sense dictates any level headed individual concerned with his or hers own survival would go with the stronger ignition system of the 1911.
History is on th 1911's side, it was our service pistol through all major and minor wars in the last 100 years. Compare this history to the Glock (what little there is of it.)
You can bet your life on a sure thing or take a chance on a newer designed pistol that was not designed by an AMERICAN FOR AMERICANS AND FOR THE COUNTRY OF AMERICA.
Or you can choose the foreign designed Glock. The choice is yours.
I will choose to be on the side of History and of John Browning and the wisdom of the Forfathers of our country. W.R.
WR - Before you go on to the next project, please explain the "unprimed cases" test you used in the 9mm Glocks. I, for one, am unclear how the test was performed and how it was determined that the Glock was at fault for any failure-to-fire's with those cases. I am suspecting that you meant something else, so a clarification is in order.
glockorama
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Wild Romanian wrote:
This guy is truly clueless.
Some can only talk and not listen.
This guy is truly clueless.
Some can only talk and not listen.
This is WR 's Great Words:
"You can bet your life on a sure thing or take a chance on a newer designed pistol that was not designed by an AMERICAN FOR AMERICANS AND FOR THE COUNTRY OF AMERICA. "
Amazing, just amazing turn of events...Those who dare
to go against this guy are against the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...Everybody ducks until it's not too late...
"You can bet your life on a sure thing or take a chance on a newer designed pistol that was not designed by an AMERICAN FOR AMERICANS AND FOR THE COUNTRY OF AMERICA. "
Amazing, just amazing turn of events...Those who dare
to go against this guy are against the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...Everybody ducks until it's not too late...
Marko Kloos
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This reminds me of a kid sticking his fingers in his ears and singing, "Odie, odie, odie....la la la, I can't heeeeear you..."
This farce needs to come to an end. The thread has outlived its meager entertainment value. Exchanging ideas and theories in factual debate among mature adults is a fun thing...arguing with someone who is absolutely unwilling to even respond to valid questions is singularly pointless, and a waste of time and bandwidth.
This farce needs to come to an end. The thread has outlived its meager entertainment value. Exchanging ideas and theories in factual debate among mature adults is a fun thing...arguing with someone who is absolutely unwilling to even respond to valid questions is singularly pointless, and a waste of time and bandwidth.
Fred Hansen
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GIGO
Those smilies rock!
Those smilies rock!
Rainbow Six
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Geeesh! What an idiot!
WR, back to my post about how 80 percent plus of US law enforcement use Glocks, and about 50 percent of competitive shooters, like me, use Glocks in IDPA and USPSA. What were the cops thinking of by buying such 'unreliable' guns. I am very worried about the FBI's choice of the G23. HAHAHA!
But I am just a beginner in Glock shooting. I only have one Glock that has gone 70,000 rounds without a failure. That really impresses me! Why? Well, I started shooting action pistol back in the 70's, when the only game in town was a 1911 Colt Gold Cup. Anyone who had a Gold Cup run more than 70 rounds without an incident was famous! I didn't even buy a Glock until 1994, and didn't shoot it competitvely until '96.
You need to get out of your very, very tiny little mindset, go to the nearest action pistol match to you, and observe. If you actually do this, please report back....
By the way, you are not the first self proclaimed guru gun tester from the obscure!
But I am just a beginner in Glock shooting. I only have one Glock that has gone 70,000 rounds without a failure. That really impresses me! Why? Well, I started shooting action pistol back in the 70's, when the only game in town was a 1911 Colt Gold Cup. Anyone who had a Gold Cup run more than 70 rounds without an incident was famous! I didn't even buy a Glock until 1994, and didn't shoot it competitvely until '96.
You need to get out of your very, very tiny little mindset, go to the nearest action pistol match to you, and observe. If you actually do this, please report back....
By the way, you are not the first self proclaimed guru gun tester from the obscure!
Guys, stop!!! You're killing me, I'm laughing so hard, I'm going to hurt myself! 
This thread is the funniest thing I've read here for a long time! 
W.R. Get a clue! Doesn't it make you stop for just a moment and think when not one, not two, but a whole company of people are poking holes in your so-called test?
BTW, I'm a person that would probably be called a novice handloader, having only loaded a few thousand rounds in the last few years, but I've yet to let one get past the inspection stage with a high primer. You really need to be less careless with your reloading, or shoot at a private range where you won't hurt someone else when you blow up your gun.
However, I do wish to thank you all for the entertainment, it's been a blast! Don't stop on my account.
This thread is the funniest thing I've read here for a long time! W.R. Get a clue! Doesn't it make you stop for just a moment and think when not one, not two, but a whole company of people are poking holes in your so-called test?
BTW, I'm a person that would probably be called a novice handloader, having only loaded a few thousand rounds in the last few years, but I've yet to let one get past the inspection stage with a high primer. You really need to be less careless with your reloading, or shoot at a private range where you won't hurt someone else when you blow up your gun.
However, I do wish to thank you all for the entertainment, it's been a blast! Don't stop on my account.
Damn! I had to read WR's posts several times to realize he didn't even use his own Glock in this bad reload thing. Whoever loaned you a Glock to shoot your reloads is just as moronic as you are!
Conversation between two unknown shooters. Hey dude, can I borrow your Glock to try my reloads? Sure, dude, whatever... Uh, it can't like hurt the gun, or anything? Uh, no way man, I mean, I've been reloading like, for, you know, uh, 2 weeks.. Cool Dude, whoa! Hey, wait a second, what's that thing sticking out of the bottom? Oh? Uh, don't worry dude, it's supposed to be that way for 1911 guns...
Now to be totally, like, serious... WR, the guy's Glock blows up in his face using your reloads, and HE SUES THE **** OUT OF YOU!!! LIKE, WAY COOL, DUDE!
There is hope for you yet!
Conversation between two unknown shooters. Hey dude, can I borrow your Glock to try my reloads? Sure, dude, whatever... Uh, it can't like hurt the gun, or anything? Uh, no way man, I mean, I've been reloading like, for, you know, uh, 2 weeks.. Cool Dude, whoa! Hey, wait a second, what's that thing sticking out of the bottom? Oh? Uh, don't worry dude, it's supposed to be that way for 1911 guns...
Now to be totally, like, serious... WR, the guy's Glock blows up in his face using your reloads, and HE SUES THE **** OUT OF YOU!!! LIKE, WAY COOL, DUDE!
There is hope for you yet!
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While it is true that Glocks will work with the right commercial ammo they are not to be relied on under extemely rugged circumstances such as found in combat when the pisol would be subjected to dirt , mud , freezing temperatures, hard military type primers, lack of proper cleaning or defective ammo
This is utter bs.
In the department I am with about half of the guys used to carry 1911's. They stopped one by one. Why because the harsh climate and salt water made these pistols not always reliable. All carry glocks now except one guy who carries a usp. They work great. They worked at my last department which had an even harsher climate with temps dropping below -100 in wind chill and -40 ambient. It was also a sandy nasty climate that made lots of guns choke. But the issue GLock 21's worked. If I had to make a list of brands I would trust in the harsh climates I have seen in Alaska it would be very short. Here it is Glock, Sig, HK and Beretta.
PAT
While it is true that Glocks will work with the right commercial ammo they are not to be relied on under extemely rugged circumstances such as found in combat when the pisol would be subjected to dirt , mud , freezing temperatures, hard military type primers, lack of proper cleaning or defective ammo
This is utter bs.
In the department I am with about half of the guys used to carry 1911's. They stopped one by one. Why because the harsh climate and salt water made these pistols not always reliable. All carry glocks now except one guy who carries a usp. They work great. They worked at my last department which had an even harsher climate with temps dropping below -100 in wind chill and -40 ambient. It was also a sandy nasty climate that made lots of guns choke. But the issue GLock 21's worked. If I had to make a list of brands I would trust in the harsh climates I have seen in Alaska it would be very short. Here it is Glock, Sig, HK and Beretta.
PAT
Shootin' Shane
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If my Aunt had a #@$!, she would be my Uncle.
If you want reliability, ditch the 1911 and Glock and get a Sig Sauer or HK....
If you want reliability, ditch the 1911 and Glock and get a Sig Sauer or HK....
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