I think the moral of the story is; If your mugged by knife point and the guy is too close to pull your weapon. Try to get distance. Don't get killed if all he wants is your wallet. Give up your wallet , but if he sees your packing and wants your gun, don't give it to him and fight for your life.
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"Gimme your wallet... and your piece."
- Thread starter Netzapper
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Getting distance.....do you think mugger who knows you are armed is just going to stand there as you retreat? He will charge and begin slashing / stabbing, or swinging with his bat. Good in theory but in practice might be a touch difficult to implement unless you are an NFL quality DB who can backpeddle really fast.
The best move is probably to sacrifice your weak arm as a blocking piece, hopefully your jacket takes the bulk of the damage, while you one handed draw with your strong arm and hit your attacker COM.
If there are hidden multiple muggers, the second and third will probably think twice about approaching an armed person. If they persist, defend yourself accordingly.
The best move is probably to sacrifice your weak arm as a blocking piece, hopefully your jacket takes the bulk of the damage, while you one handed draw with your strong arm and hit your attacker COM.
If there are hidden multiple muggers, the second and third will probably think twice about approaching an armed person. If they persist, defend yourself accordingly.
Jack Malloy
New member
Meanwhile, back in the real world....
Chances are if he discovers you are packing, he is gonna run.
Criminals are after an easy score, not a fight.
Chances are, he has not seen the police training video showing that a man witha knife has an advantage over a man with a gun at 15 yards.
He sees a peice, chances are the brown stuff will fly down his leg as he runs away, and you are really worrying about something highly unlikely to happen....Unless he is so stoned he is fearless, and would proabably even have trouble standing up.
Thing to do is do what I do when you train.
Practice diversion.
I routenely practice drawing my handgun while reaching my wallet forward in a full lenght mirror.
Another trick that will make you quick is to practice drawing as you toss a coin from one hand to the next. Thats an old speed draw thing that fast draw competitors used to do.
A little training and diversion and you most likely won't have to worry.
In the real world the only way somebody would discern that you were armed would be by seeing you inadvertantly print or flash. In that case, chances are, he would not confront you openly any way, he would attack you without warning. In which case you are up $#!+ creek, like the liquer store clerk in the first Dirty Harry movie....
Many guys worry more about speed of draw and access than concealment, but thats a mistake. Make sure your gun is CONCEALED and that you can get to it fast.....
Chances are if he discovers you are packing, he is gonna run.
Criminals are after an easy score, not a fight.
Chances are, he has not seen the police training video showing that a man witha knife has an advantage over a man with a gun at 15 yards.
He sees a peice, chances are the brown stuff will fly down his leg as he runs away, and you are really worrying about something highly unlikely to happen....Unless he is so stoned he is fearless, and would proabably even have trouble standing up.
Thing to do is do what I do when you train.
Practice diversion.
I routenely practice drawing my handgun while reaching my wallet forward in a full lenght mirror.
Another trick that will make you quick is to practice drawing as you toss a coin from one hand to the next. Thats an old speed draw thing that fast draw competitors used to do.
A little training and diversion and you most likely won't have to worry.
In the real world the only way somebody would discern that you were armed would be by seeing you inadvertantly print or flash. In that case, chances are, he would not confront you openly any way, he would attack you without warning. In which case you are up $#!+ creek, like the liquer store clerk in the first Dirty Harry movie....
Many guys worry more about speed of draw and access than concealment, but thats a mistake. Make sure your gun is CONCEALED and that you can get to it fast.....
RochPersDef
Inactive
We can "what if" this to death. Deal with what you have at the moment in question: Guy with knife, wants money and somehow discovers that you have a gun. Do what you can to distract him long enough to create space and enough time to draw and, at the very least, let him know you can use it, or shoot him as you already have the legal justification (in most places). Period. No other factors, no other details, nothing. That's it.
First, here in North Carolina it is legal to use a firearm in self-defense if you have a reasonable belief that you are in danger of being sexually assaulted, suffering great bodily harm, or being killed. Knives, clubs, bats, broken beer bottles, escrima sticks--any weapons I can think of--definitely fall into the criteria of inflicting great bodily harm or death. That's what weapons can do. You are justified in shooting. And while I suppose there could be additional circumstances where shooting, though justified, is not the best choice, I can't think of any that fit the given hypothetical scenario.
Bottom line: If the person is armed and actually threatening you, you are justified in shooting.
Second, if someone actually gets my gun--as in, I hand it to him--that would also give me a reasonable belief that I am in danger of suffering great bodily harm or being killed after he gets it.
Bottom line: The request itself could also justify shooting, if you have a reasonable belief that they could forcefully take your gun from you if you refuse.
Third, it's hard for me to picture a situation where the BG allows me enough room to draw my gun but does not allow me enough room to at least speed rock and fire.
Bottom line: If he gives me the time and space to draw, I will, and I will fire.
'Tis better to give than to receive, especially when it comes to bullets.
Bottom line: If the person is armed and actually threatening you, you are justified in shooting.
Second, if someone actually gets my gun--as in, I hand it to him--that would also give me a reasonable belief that I am in danger of suffering great bodily harm or being killed after he gets it.
Bottom line: The request itself could also justify shooting, if you have a reasonable belief that they could forcefully take your gun from you if you refuse.
Third, it's hard for me to picture a situation where the BG allows me enough room to draw my gun but does not allow me enough room to at least speed rock and fire.
Bottom line: If he gives me the time and space to draw, I will, and I will fire.
'Tis better to give than to receive, especially when it comes to bullets.