GF calls at 4am "drunk guy at front door"

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That's an interesting link, however it doesn't really support the argument that they arrest someone just to arrest someone and it also says nothing about convictions just arrests. It's also a tiny study that's 30 years old and may have no bearing on current police procedure, particularly at a nationwide level, it might still be relevant in Minneapolis where the study took place.

Officers used a lottery method to determine which of the three responses they would use on each offender. Interviewers then recontacted victims over a six-month period to measure whether the offenders continued to commit domestic assaults, how often they did so, and how serious the assaults were. Official records were also reviewed.
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Indicates that there was actual evidence of domestic violence, not just people being arrested to be arrested.

As a result of the experiment, the Minneapolis Police Department changed its policy on domestic assaults. Officers are now required to file written reports explaining why they failed to make arrests when it was legally possible to do so. The new policy’s initial impact was to double the number of domestic assault arrests.
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Just because the police are called does not mean there is a legal reason to make an arrest. Also it only speaks to the initial impact of a policy 30 years ago.

It may be premature to conclude definitely that arrest is always the best police response to domestic violence, or that all suspects should be arrested.
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Seems like the interpretation of the results also goes against just arresting someone to arrest someone.

So yes, I doubt the premise you have put forth.

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The second link does not indicate they're just arrest someone to arrest someone. Just that if there is evidence of DV that they have to make an arrest.

Either link applied to the OP, what evidence of DV would there be? None. Two parties on opposite sides of a locked door and no sign violence.
 
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I had a client who had this happen to him. The police said they HAVE to arrest someone. He was the one who called the police on his ex-wife to get her out of his house. He was the one who was arrested. Point is; always think about consequences of calling the police. I think this is good advice, and something that people don't always think about.

When someone dies of old age, calling the police is not the best option either. They show up looking for foul play. Better to call the hospice.

Anyway, getting a bit off-topic here.
 
I think an instance such as this warrants police immediately. You don't know whats out there, but it likely won't be pretty.

Drunks can be the most dangerous of all. After all, they are drunk.
 
Since everyone else espoused their theory , I'll throw mine in the mix. Who leaves their girlfriend at their house and she apparently is unaware that someone else lives there ? Did I miss something. In my most humble opinion , Occupant plus gun plus fear added to ignorance = "Bang , You are Dead. Oh Crap! I didn't realize who you were." Not good at all ! On a lighter note , I love this thread . We got roommates , we got girlfriends. We have the Aurora Borealis and we have people who prefer Dogs.(I personally have been trying to work the Aurora Borealis into one of my posts for months.). This thread truly has it all. We have not had activity like this since that baseless attack on the 327 magnum.
 
Sorry guys, but I disagree with calling 911 first.

First course of action should be to grab the gun (assuming that one knows how to use it), barricade/secure yourself, then call the cops.

The logic is that if one tries to call the cops while someone is attempting to break in, one may not have time to grab the gun or secure themselves in a locked room when the BG breaks in. Locking oneself in a room w/o a gun and calling 911 does no good if the BG is armed and breaks in while one is on the phone with 911.

First rule, grab a loaded gun when someone is trying to break in. Heck, better yet - carry on your person.
 
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<SNIP>When someone dies of old age, calling the police is not the best option either. They show up looking for foul play. Better to call the hospice.

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Heh, yuppppppp....... totally agree... there's a story here... ;)
 
Slight thread drift, but,...

....I usually put my house/car keys in my checked baggage, because I have a pocketknife on that ring. Occasionally, I do find myself in town with no luggage and therefore no keys. So I've been there and done that. He might have been in a similar situation.
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Uh, wouldnt it be simpler to take the knife off the keyring and not take the chance of not having your keys?

I dont think I'd care to be without keys, depending on the airlines to get the baggage there on time and the right place.
 
Company policy is I get a weekend at home every three weeks. That's the only time I use my keys, so most of the time I just leave them in my suitcase anyway. I don't even think of taking them out until I have to unlock something. If I do get locked out, there are 5 other people who live in my house.

Of course, people in m house don't freak out, grab a shotgun, and barricade the door when I knock, either. ;)
 
Call The Police

always think about consequences of calling the police
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While we digest that little morsel do me a favor and think about the consequences of not calling them please!

I don't see how the OP's situation relates to domestic violence. I see girl alone at home no working knowledge of weapons. Call the cops period end of story. Anything to the contrary is a foolish assertion.

Someone made the argument of secure yourself first and then call the police. I can agree with that given that the person involved has firearms training. If not then 911 while moving to a secure location should be priority #1. The line may be cut by the BG so if you can dial do it now. Cordless phone or cell phone is also handy. ALWAYS HAVE A CORDED PHONE IN YOUR SAFEST ROOM THAT DOES NOT RELY ON ELECTRICITY!!!!

The DV stuff doesn't really seem realevant here.

Regards, Vermonter
 
Sounds like a porch light, and peep hole would have been a great asset to have in the situation the OP described. I know that in my younger days I lost my keys when I went for a hot night in the old town so say. Though I lived alone, and kept a well hidden key to the front door. I did not have my car keys with me due to the fact that I took a cab becasue I knew I would be drinking. I can see a similar thing when one has a roomie.

In short I wold suggest finding a way to identify who is at the door, and teaching the girl friend how to handle the weapons in the house as well.
 
Well this thread has gone on and off topic way to much, I am surpised it is has not been locked yet. Thanks to everyone for there adivice and opinion, except for those of you who said (call the cops first!!!) since I already pointed that out in my original post is was not much of a help.

Porch light with motion sensor would be a good idea, so would a peep hole. Unfortunetly I have a rental house and it does not have neither. And due to the set up of the house she could not see the front door from the upstairs bedroom. No DV does not apply to this. Dogs would be a great option to but since its a rental it is not an option at this moment :(
 
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