Is that because of the force with which the slide moves back or something to do with how it chambers a round or something inbetween? And can I train that problem away or is it likely to surface regardless in a high stress situation? My hands are smaller than my 11 year olds but I have a resolute will.
G19 vs. Revolver, first gun
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Get the G-19. They are much easier to learn to shoot with than a revolver.
Don't worry about malfunctions, just occasionally practice malfunction clearance.
Tap, Rack and Attempt to fire.
If your pistol quits firing... here I'll let Clint Smith demonstrate instead.
Pistol Malfunction Clearance
After you have fired your Glock a few hundred times it will probably have never malfunctioned and if it does you will know how to clear it.
Don't worry about malfunctions, just occasionally practice malfunction clearance.
Tap, Rack and Attempt to fire.
If your pistol quits firing... here I'll let Clint Smith demonstrate instead.
Pistol Malfunction Clearance
After you have fired your Glock a few hundred times it will probably have never malfunctioned and if it does you will know how to clear it.
migmachata
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I think a revolver is a great first gun unless you want to immediately use it, revolvers take time to master, and once you do you'll be good with any handgun, but the G19 would be much easier to handle and use for a beginner.
Ace_Breaker
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If your wrists bend back as the slide comes back it takes energy from the weapon cycling. When it tries to chamber the next round it loses energy and won't fully seat it. If you train it won't be an issue. Just remember to have a tight, firm grip and it should be fine. When you shoot try not to allow wrist movement. Keep them straight, your shooting arm straight, and everything tight. The Glock is a great handgun. Once you train a certain way you will resort to that in a stress situation.
My sincere opinion is to purchase the G19. Except try and get a better purchase price or go and purchase a completely new one. (I like even numbered serial numbers...j/k) It would be a very good first pistol as well as an excellent long term pistol. You would not be making an error and I'm not even a Glock fanatic but I do recognize how well they do the job they are designed to do. They are also a great learning too shoot platform.
You are passionate about this model and it feels comfortable in your hand, which equates to the fact that you will want to go to the range and shoot it alot and have fun doing that. By shooting it, much like anything else you will become knowledgable about firearms and shooting, which will give you confidence both in a martial application as well as future purchasing ideas.
In short you are about to become a 'Gun Nut' welcome to the party.
Hold off on the revolver idea. A .38 is not powerful enough and a .357 would be too powerful and not applicable for home defense. However, eventually you will with your new knowledge gained through experience know exactly which revolver that you want. But even then your Glock will always be your primary weapon. Or at least until you have 4 or 5 more pistols to choose from.
You are passionate about this model and it feels comfortable in your hand, which equates to the fact that you will want to go to the range and shoot it alot and have fun doing that. By shooting it, much like anything else you will become knowledgable about firearms and shooting, which will give you confidence both in a martial application as well as future purchasing ideas.
In short you are about to become a 'Gun Nut' welcome to the party.
Hold off on the revolver idea. A .38 is not powerful enough and a .357 would be too powerful and not applicable for home defense. However, eventually you will with your new knowledge gained through experience know exactly which revolver that you want. But even then your Glock will always be your primary weapon. Or at least until you have 4 or 5 more pistols to choose from.
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Of all the reply's to your question about the glock vs. revolver, I will throw You
one more curve. If a gun owner has a gun that he\she loves they would never
sell it, unless it to keep the family fed. Ginger the guns that I have sold or traded, was because the gun had a problem, I would suggest that You purchase a new firearm so You are not buying someone else s problem. New firearms are not devoid of problems, but In the long run You would just be
better off, not buying someone else s problem.
Of all the reply's to your question about the glock vs. revolver, I will throw You
one more curve. If a gun owner has a gun that he\she loves they would never
sell it, unless it to keep the family fed. Ginger the guns that I have sold or traded, was because the gun had a problem, I would suggest that You purchase a new firearm so You are not buying someone else s problem. New firearms are not devoid of problems, but In the long run You would just be
better off, not buying someone else s problem.
I'm changing my vote!
Ginger,
After reading your replies to all of the posts here, I'm changing my vote from the revolver to the Glock. You clearly love shooting it and that is going to make it a better piece for you regardless of the ballistics or reliabilty of any revolover.
If you love it, buy it, and shoot it with confidence. That will bring you more peace of mind than any abstract argument. And let's face it, peace of mind is what we're really talking about here.
Ginger,
After reading your replies to all of the posts here, I'm changing my vote from the revolver to the Glock. You clearly love shooting it and that is going to make it a better piece for you regardless of the ballistics or reliabilty of any revolover.
If you love it, buy it, and shoot it with confidence. That will bring you more peace of mind than any abstract argument. And let's face it, peace of mind is what we're really talking about here.
Buy a cheap used pump action shotgun. Stevens, Sears, Westen Auto, or whatever. You'll be able to find one from well under $200. That leaves you enough to buy a nice used Buckmark or Ruger .22. You can use the .22 to get better at shooting handguns until you get an idea of what kind of centerfire gun you want.
The top of the stairs defensive scenario is custom ordered for a shotgun.
The top of the stairs defensive scenario is custom ordered for a shotgun.
Hey I totally understand what you are saying, but in this case I think the seller is a novice who is influenced by our Springfield man in common. I'm thinking this is the case because he's only shot 500 rounds, wants a springfield, and was really into showing me how the barrel had - excuse me I don't know the terminology - a circular pattern of grooves instead of straight grooves which he said made it easier to clean. My co-worker, who will buy it if I don't, said they are all like that and the only reason we can figure for him showing me is that he thinks it's a big deal because he doesn't know what he is talking about, which would make sense because why else would he sell a G19? Yes, I understand, unless there is a problem with it. Except our friend in common who really is an expert is also family and knows me and my kids who he sees several times a week. So I can't see him steering me towards a bad buy so much as talking this other novice into getting a springfield instead of a glock. But point taken, I need to shoot the thing and have someone more knowledgeable than me inspect it. Thank you!!!!
Ginger, you are really diligent in doing the research and asking the right questions, and have received a lot of good information from this forum so far. Given everything I've read, whatever decision you make will be the right one for you.
Personally, I have no experience with Glocks, though I know many who prefer them. The basic choice of revolver vs semiauto for home defense, however, is a multi-faceted one. Reliability when called upon in the middle of the night is a serious issue and I honestly don't understand the remarks made in this string about revolvers having such problems. Aside from limp-wristing, which has been explained very well already, revolvers are generally very forgiving when choice of ammo comes into play (they don't care), whereas semiautos often have specific brands they prefer)... My original home defense weapon of choice was a 9mm semiauto, until I experienced a failure at the range-whereas, I reconsidered my options and chose a k-frame revolver in .357 mag but loading with .38sp.- a more-than-adequate defense load in most experts' opinion. I honestly believe that most shooters will confirm that revolvers are far more reliable than semiautos, regardless of personal preferences...( and I own both)....
You are obviously a smart lady who knows what she likes- I feel confident that your decision will be the absolute perfect one for you! Good luck in your quest....
Personally, I have no experience with Glocks, though I know many who prefer them. The basic choice of revolver vs semiauto for home defense, however, is a multi-faceted one. Reliability when called upon in the middle of the night is a serious issue and I honestly don't understand the remarks made in this string about revolvers having such problems. Aside from limp-wristing, which has been explained very well already, revolvers are generally very forgiving when choice of ammo comes into play (they don't care), whereas semiautos often have specific brands they prefer)... My original home defense weapon of choice was a 9mm semiauto, until I experienced a failure at the range-whereas, I reconsidered my options and chose a k-frame revolver in .357 mag but loading with .38sp.- a more-than-adequate defense load in most experts' opinion. I honestly believe that most shooters will confirm that revolvers are far more reliable than semiautos, regardless of personal preferences...( and I own both)....
You are obviously a smart lady who knows what she likes- I feel confident that your decision will be the absolute perfect one for you! Good luck in your quest....
Yep to the shotgun, I keep thinking the same thing. I'm thinking I should map out a budget so I'm not feeling this either or pressure, start with the G19 because it's available and a cash sale, then get a shotgun, etc, maybe a new one every 3 months till I have one of everything.
Seriously, how hard will it be to secure a shotgun in case someone breaks and enters when I'm not here? The house is ridiculously large, 5 doors on main level and some pre-broken windows, that is why I decided I should be replacing the 100 year plus doors with steel, etc, before introducing firearms into the mix.
And yes, if an intruder comes once we've retired to our quarters, I will definitely be dealing with the top of the stairs situation, unless I am in the library or laundry room downstairs, or an altogether different suite down there. It's all confusing, but simpler since we moved upstairs, although I did leave out an old exterior staircase leading to a piece of plywood in a doorway to an enclosed porch with steps up to a door to my bedroom. Very confusing house, great for envisioning tactical scenarios ad nauseum.
Seriously, how hard will it be to secure a shotgun in case someone breaks and enters when I'm not here? The house is ridiculously large, 5 doors on main level and some pre-broken windows, that is why I decided I should be replacing the 100 year plus doors with steel, etc, before introducing firearms into the mix.
And yes, if an intruder comes once we've retired to our quarters, I will definitely be dealing with the top of the stairs situation, unless I am in the library or laundry room downstairs, or an altogether different suite down there. It's all confusing, but simpler since we moved upstairs, although I did leave out an old exterior staircase leading to a piece of plywood in a doorway to an enclosed porch with steps up to a door to my bedroom. Very confusing house, great for envisioning tactical scenarios ad nauseum.
Harder to secure a shotgun than a pistol because of size issues. Harder to use a shotgun in close quarters because of size issues. IMO a pistol would be first choice, especially since you seem to have concerns about getting to a gun if you are downstairs. You can wear your Glock or S&W, but it's hard to lounge around with a pump gun strapped to you.
Personally I find Glocks to be uglier than a mud fence, but most folks here would disagree. There's some nice H&K P7s around these days, German police surplus, and they're very nice pistols. While I'd normally think a revolver's simplicity would appeal to a first-time user, in your case it seems you've adapted to a semiauto, and you should probably go with what you can shoot well. The idea of trying a bunch of pistols at a range makes a lot of sense; then get one that you can handle well.
Personally I find Glocks to be uglier than a mud fence, but most folks here would disagree. There's some nice H&K P7s around these days, German police surplus, and they're very nice pistols. While I'd normally think a revolver's simplicity would appeal to a first-time user, in your case it seems you've adapted to a semiauto, and you should probably go with what you can shoot well. The idea of trying a bunch of pistols at a range makes a lot of sense; then get one that you can handle well.
Yeah I must say it was kind of a drag to get my cwp then in analysing my situation realize I needed to carry at home, and really not out and about. I think having a few firearms placed strategically around the home in safes makes more sense than trying to carry all the time, esp. with my crazy dog and kids jumping on and off me all the time and being in plain view of the neighbors whenever I step outside, too much transition for an error not to occur.