From John Taffin - Marlin Closing

All I'll add to this is I purchased a newer model Marlin 795 and QC was a BIG issue and the factory only rectified one of the 2 QC problems with my rifle. Turned me off to Marlin.
 
"Can you explain why it isn't on their web page? Instead, it's in some random fax that several people claim to have seen, but remains ever-elusive to those of us who comprise the uneducated masses..."

Would YOU really want to announce to the world that

"HEY! WE CAN'T FIND OUR ASSES WITH TWO HANDS AND A FLASHLIGHT, SO WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN! YEAH, WE KNOW THIS MAKES US LOOK LIKE CHUMPS, MAYBE WE ARE CHUMPS, BUT WE HOPE TO SORT OF MAYBE HAVE THIS PROBLEM FIXED SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE SO OUR STUFF WON'T SUCK QUITE SO MUCH! THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT!!!"

I'm sure that would make anyone viewing Marlin's website feel REALLY good about buying something that's not affected by the QC issues.

My guess is that Marlin is simply trying to keep this quiet so they can get ahead of this issue and it hopefully won't have a big impact on their overall sales.



P.S. - You used comprise correctly in a sentence, so you can't be too uneducated... :p
 
Much better to shut down the line and correct things than to continue to put out bad stuff. Poor quality really hurts your reputation an can influence buyers for a very long time.
Losing two top QC people can be a problem but I must say ,having been involved with QC , QC must involve everyone to be effective !!!
 
Of course, taking the factory offline "temporarily" then just not opening it again isn't exactly a bad strategy to remove an iconic, but troubled, brand. Not like we haven't seen it before both in and out of the firearms industry.
 
If that were the case, the announcement likely would say that the factory is shutting down for retooling, or something like that, that would take ALL production off line, not just some of it.
 
Rumor may or may not be true.....but no company would issue a press release that their product has issues......unless there is a liability issue involved. Why admit to something your competitors would use against you.
 
It would do a great deal in improving consumer respect if Marlin, instead of quietly continuing to produce sub-standard leverguns, does shut production down AND ISSUE A STATEMENT SAYING THIS IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF BOTH THE COMPANY AND ITS CUSTOMERS.

Most of us can respect either a person or a corporate entity that admits there's a problem, brings it out in the open, and tells us what they're doing to correct the situation.

In fairness to the Freedom Group, Marlin quality was going downhill before FG bought the company, so they can't be hung for the entire blame, but it was quite obvious it'd take a while to get the new production facility up to speed, and leaving every single Marlin employee behind & starting a new facility up with new employees from scratch may not have been the best way to go.
Denis
 
Mike Irwin said:
P.S. - You used comprise correctly in a sentence, so you can't be too uneducated...
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Haha... I wuz hoome skoled.... :p

As far as the rest; yeah, I can understand that. However, there's this:

DPris said:
Most of us can respect either a person or a corporate entity that admits there's a problem, brings it out in the open, and tells us what they're doing to correct the situation.
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For what it's worth, Remington response to my email this morning is that Marlin continues to produce leverguns on a daily basis.
Denis
 
For what it's worth, Remington response to my email this morning is that Marlin continues to produce leverguns on a daily basis.
Denis
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No no no. You can't email Remington. That ruins the rumor string. You have to call John Taffin or Ellwood Epps and hear their convoluted stories first, post the results and generate all sorts of bizarre responses, then out of dispair you go to the horse's mouth and find out what is going on. What is the matter with you???? ;)
 
No, you didn't get a fax, did you? You read it on the internet in a forum citing unverified sources initially and then you didn't read all the way through to find out that Remington is still producing Marlins and that there isn't any credible evidence that the fax is valid.
 
I have never seen a factory close down for anything over a day or max 2 days just to replace tool bits. I mean if there is 1 person for every cnc machine ( I highly doubt they use conventional machines ) then it wouldn't take them long to simply swap out tool bits. It isnt like you replace all of them at the same time, just whenever one gets chipped.
 
I hope this is just a bump in the road for Marlin,and they get back to what made them great in the past . I have 6 Marlin Lever rifles and all have been flawless . My last Marlin was a 1895m and it was bought in 2009 . :D
 
"I have never seen a factory close down for anything over a day or max 2 days just to replace tool bits. I mean if there is 1 person for every cnc machine ( I highly doubt they use conventional machines ) then it wouldn't take them long to simply swap out tool bits."

Retooling, recalibration, in-depth maintenance and cleaning...

That can take a bit longer than a day or two.

During the change over from model years an automotive manufacturing facility can be out of production for a couple of weeks.
 
If they haven't closed down to fix their lever gun problems, they need to. How embarrassing is it that they've even ruined the reputation of the Model 39A.
 
I look forward to seeing if DPris can find out directly from Mr. Taffin about what's going on. Meanwhile, if the 1894SS I had recently is any indication, they DO have quality control issues...that rifle was very unreliable, which is why I no longer have it. :mad:
 
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