Let me see, the discussion veered into one about McCain Fiengold being to stop the influence of corporate interests and soft money, that led to your assertion that the rich will just be able to circumvent such restrictions. Examples were asked for and 527s and MoveOn were mentioned. You asserted that:
Large companies that make the maximum donation via each of their employees...willing or unwilling.
And when to support it your attitude was:
As for your asking for examples though...do some work and look something up.
When it was pointed out to you that it is expected when making an assertion to be able to back it up you made an example of charitable donations linked to bonuses and claimed that was how it was done. When it was pointed out to you that such things were illegal you responded:
I do not know if you are being naive or just arrogant (I will assume naive since that would not imply malice of any type) but you obviously have little experience in the corporate or political world.
When it proven to you that such straw donation ARE in fact illegal you changed it to cash donations by willing employees and continued the hostile and insulting attitude.
When it finally became clear there was actually no substance to your claim outside of just claims you resorted to more insults and hostility and basically took the position that disagreeing with you or holding you accountable for your assertions amounted to being a troll and since you talk about guns and own more guns that somehow you had no need for credibility in L&P.
Now your citing offenses made prior to McCain Fiengold and STILL have not back up this assertion:
Large companies that make the maximum donation via each of their employees...willing or unwilling.
Shouting down people may work for you in a face to face and give you the false impression you have made your point but the reality is hostility and insults insults in lieu of valid arguments is what people mean by being a troll. Plenty of boards are just filled with "+1, great post, I agree 100%,etc." or just flat getting kicked off for disagreeing with someone or wanting them to give some facts. Th great thing about TFL's L&P forum is that being pro RKBA and being gun owners is what brings us here, NOT political like mindedness. The L&P section doesn't SUFFER from opposing perspectives and opinions, it BENEFITS from it. The hazzard here isn't disagreeing, it's not being able to back up what you say.
I'm going to
start a thread about McCain Feingold because it's very likely if this thread doesn't get back to Fred it'll get closed soon.