First outing with the new gun, very disappointed

First, I have made the mistake of skimping on optics. :o The money you save is never worth it.
Second, ditch the optic on a shotgun.

XS puts out some sweet sights for shotguns. :cool:
 
Dangit - the ghost ring set doesn't have a banded front sight for the Mossy. :( It looks like I'd need to have a front sight ramp installed, which would probably end up costing as much or more than the optics did.
 
which would probably end up costing as much or more than the optics did.
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Brings us back to skimping. Its not worth it man. Your gonna pay for it either way. Your going to buy another crappy optic that won't hold up, the total spent on stuff that doesn't last will be the same as the XS sights and a barrel with rifle sights.

Good luck :)
 
Brings us back to skimping. Its not worth it man. Your gonna pay for it either way. Your going to buy another crappy optic that won't hold up, the total spent on stuff that doesn't last will be the same as the XS sights and a barrel with rifle sights.
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+1, go with the ghost ring sights, XS if they make em for that gun. I have a set on my jungle country bear rifle (Marlin 1895) and love em.
 
Can you put those riot sights on a mossberg? Never checked, but that should help with the standard sights being too low.
 
When I want to hit a dove at 15 yards and he is sitting in a tree, I put his entire body above the bead with a bit of blue sky 'tween the 2. This results in a full hard hit. No rib, just a bead on a regular thin barrel. For a com shot at HD range, I am required to have the bead about on the "V" at the bottom of his ribs. This puts the shot payload about half way up the sternum... that is as good as I care to shoot in a hurry. No ghost ring, no laser nuttin...
Brent
 
Entertaining

An entertaining thread.
About the holo sight. +1 about upgrading. Any time that I have tried - I'm a slow learner - to put an inexpensive "recoil proof" sight on a hard kicking gun, I have found that, yes, it was inexpensive but not the other. Also - how long had you had that holo? Batteries normally last a looong time.
The business about pointing a shotgun as opposed to using its sights being an outdated concept......not. I do agree that for the purpose of the OP and general slug use, that one aims the SG. The concept of pointing, however, is far from outdated - the description of trap/skeet use is right on. In fact, if you were to register at a wingshooting clinic such as at an Orvis facility, what you would be taught is the Churchill method - using a well fitted SG and pointing.
About the fit of this gun - it's unusual for a stock SG to be too long for an adult shooter. I always have to add to mine and I'm still always under my fitted length. The fact that the pad/butt catches during the mount does not necessarily mean that the stock is too long. The suggestion about fitting and trying a better pad is a good one.
30 sight in rounds in 60 minutes? Wow. With adjustments? You shoot a whole lot faster than I do. Don't know that that is a bad thing, just way different. Thirty aimed rounds at a range session would take me two or three hours. I don't like to rush.
About the use of birdshot for SD/HD - there's a thread about this down the page is this forum - a lively discussion. The debate continues about the use of birdshot. I, however, do not believe that it is a "newbie" error to think that an ounce and an eighth of 7 1/2s at 1200 fps or so is ineffective at close range (in my home - a small home - the longest open distance is five yards and out of a FC SG, anyone getting hit with that load is getting hit with almost 400 pellets all arriving at the same time in a pattern about as large as my closed fist. Don't tell me that would not be effective.) You do, however, have to pick the load for the situation. At 45 feet/15yds, I'd be using something heavier so as to concentrate pellet energy.
Pete
 
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I have ghost ring sights and have only adjusted them once... I did however paint the sights for an easier aim... but slugs, buck, and bird shot all shoot accurately... in fact ive killed a few birds with no problem... I do like the idea of the stock because I can get behind the pistol grip with the buttstock and I feel I have more control however I dont have one for fear of my sights not aligning right...
 
My opinion (take it for what it's worth...probably not a lot):

1) I aim my shotgun, one eye closed, using the bead (RH shooter left eye dominant...I know I should with both eyes open...everyone always ask how I can hit anything but I never have any problems).
2) I don't believe in sights on a shotgun, the bead is fine even for slugs.
3) Shooting at fast flying birds at 25 yds (75 ft) is not a problem so a person at 40 ft shouldn't be (I've never actually shot a man-size silhouette at 40 ft)
4) 100F heat and a LOT of shooting (browning auto) has never required the use of a heat shield.
5) Do you really sight in a shotugn using a bench? I've never heard of such a thing. Pick it up and put it on your shoulder it's not a sniper rifle.
 
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