First handgun - I guess I was born yesterday.

If it were me I would be happy to have a 2008 SP2022 over a current production one. Currently they are made in Exeter. In 2008 they were made in Germany. It should have triple serial numbers. One on the barrel, slide and frame. It should have a superior Iffalon finish.

Night Sights are easily replaced and they are really only useful in one lighting condition. Low light. Not no light not day light....

Box and manual would be nice but not they are not necessary. If you need more mags check out Greg Cote.

http://www.gregcotellc.com/cart/ind...th=123&zenid=959c8fede6d66e3a4590e13fbf3a5fa4

17 round mags for $29.

They gouged you a little bit on price. NIB SP2022 sell for as low as $333 but in the long run you shouldn't sweat it. Just enjoy the pistol. It is a great gun. It is an fantastic trigger. It is one of the best DA/SA triggers Sig has ever produced. IMHO. It is different then a classic Sig P series trigger but it is still a great trigger.
 
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Let's consider this.

A lot of times, to a seller, information is limited. A buyer would try to find out A history but in the firearms world few people keep round counts. The shop may have bought it from someone who only knows that he bought it from someone else a couple years ago and knows nothing more about the firearm. How many previous owners? Does it have any quirks? Issues? Round count? Had it been worked on? With every new owner a lot of info is lost and shops have to keep moving. The seller will likely not pass on his cumulative experience verbally during the transaction. People lie too. So the only thing you can do is check current condition for yourself and have a return policy.

I really cannot picture a shop running a duty pistol's serial number to see when it was made or to learn any interesting history. Clerks are too busy, often less than knowledgable, and usually less interested than the customer. Picture your average "gun shop guy" I'm just glad you weren't fed a whole pile of terrible advice that got you killed!

Finally, I think you did just fine deal wise. First, Because in all likelihood this gun could last your lifetime. 7 years is nothing. The difference of 50-100 dollars may seem a lot now but this pistol could be a fantastic shooter for you the rest of your life and it would have been worth it. Second, prices on guns change drastically all the time. A friend of mine bought a PT92 a decade or so ago at a local price of $500 something. For a Taurus. Now they can be had for $350 something. But he shoots well with it and he supported a local store, no regrets.

I wouldn't have expected you to ask how old the gun was, and I wouldn't have expected the salesman to know or look it up. In a lot of cases we just have a ballpark idea. If you see a Gen 3 Glock it could be on the newer side, or could not be. If you see a Gen 4 I'm thinking it's made within the last few years. Usually a particular model is discontinued not because of something catastrophically bad but the fashion changed, or there is a cheaper production method to be had.

Now your job is to become a crack shot and from what I've read the pistol is up to it, if you are. If this happens, I'd say the sooner it was in your possession the better.
 
As much as I like the old P series triggers I have to remember I've paid even more for an SRT. I do love sig though.

And hey OP, some of us like that shop! I guess you don't, and that's fair, but don't take it personally because your opinion of that shop really doesn't make a difference in my opinion of you. I still like that shop though and I would watch out for special sale prices on NIB firearms. I've seen them actually offer competitive rock bottom bud's level rates on common striker polymer weapons if you ever want an M&P or Glock or FNS etc.

I wonder if we have enough washington shooters to all meet up and do a TFL "shoot out" at a range somewhere.
 
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But as said, I dont think they knew it had night sights.
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Anyone who looked at the sights would know they were night sights, at least anyone who has experience with night sights. They wouldn't know because they glowed, because the glow from night sights isn't visible in normal indoor lighting (and definitely not under the bright lights of a gun shop floor), but they'd know because the tritium vials are very distinctive-looking.

So if the salesman didn't tell you it had night sights it either means he forgot to mention it, he didn't bother to look at the sights, or he just started working at the store and was inexperienced.

And as for the plastic guide rod; don't switch it to a metal one. Your plastic guide rod will last a long, long time, and it might even work better than a metal one: Often the plastic guide rod on a polymer-framed gun is designed to flex, and switching it out to a metal one can cause stoppages. I've seen that happen on a few Gen 3 Glocks, and there was a thread here a few months ago where the OP switched his Ruger SR9 to a metal guide rod and started having stoppages, and when he switched back to the plastic one it worked fine.
 
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Gotta bear in mind, sometimes gun shop employees get lazy too. At a LGS I like and feel has good knowledge, they sometimes put, in their description of the firearm, something off the wall. The employee was either careless or non-expert about the firearm, and nobody double-checked.

I can easily see an LGS employee taking a quick look at the pistol and not noting the sights, or perhaps not caring too much about a used gun.
 
I just always assume that the sales person might not know didley, and it's up to me to be knowledgeable.
I've over heard so much misinformation at the counters, I would never believe anything they say, unless after a brief conversation I could tell that they knew what they were talking about.
Even then, I take everything with a grain of salt!

Their job is to sell you something.
Your job is to make sure that you like what you buy.
period.
 
I wonder if we have enough washington shooters to all meet up and do a TFL "shoot out" at a range somewhere.
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I'd be down!

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I've been doing a lot of research and shopping around before I buy so I don't have that happen. I intend to be 100% satisfied walking out of the shop.

I haven't been to Federal Way Discount Guns yet, but I've talked to them on the phone.
 
Dealers are in the business to make money. I have seen the exact same pistol at two places with $120.00 difference in price. You seem concerned about it blowing up, in the future only buy new for your own piece of mind. But on that note I saw a brand new revolver some knuckle head put an over loaded reload in it and blew it to pieces. I have some mosins that are nearly 80 years old and I have no concern shooting them for their age. I don't know about you but I have a couple of gun shops I frequent. I can walk in with anything and have them check it over for me at no charge. Even if you have to pay a few bucks have a professional look at it. Again for your own piece of mind. Happy shooting.
 
Skagit county sales tax is 8.1%. Gun shops often charge $60+ for transfers but others-hardware stores, pawn shops, dealers who work from home- might charge $25. If you look online there are good deals if you wait and pounce. For example last year I got a 2022 with stainless slide, nite sites, holster, 2 grips, 1 mag, case, rebate for 2 mags and pistol rug for $379+$25ffl+free shipping. You spend time though looking and waiting on deals. And you have to be ready to jump. Recently there were 2022 for $333 with a laser but limited stock. At the same time others online were selling for $400-500.
The 17rd mag is the standard 15rd with an extension. Makes the grip longer which I prefer.
When you clean and reassemble, the spring has a front and back. Make sure to unload first.
New mags are hard to fully load but will loosen up.
Only thing I don't like are the little rails for the slides, not much surface area. But nobody else seems bothered.
 
I don't usually impulse buy when it comes to guns, I spend a lot of time researching (obsessing?) over what I want and how much to expect to pay. But, yesterday I stopped at the LGS and found a beautiful Ruger Mark II target pistol in stainless with a 5 1/2" bull barrel for $350.00 and bought it on the spot. I used to have one many years ago and it was a super sweet shooter and I always regretted selling it. About an hour later I started thinking maybe I paid too much and started looking around, turns out I actually got a pretty fair deal, but most important I'm just so thrilled I even found this gun and am dying to shoot it. But even if I had overpayed I'd still be happy just to have one again and would enjoy it just as much. Now if only the price of .22 ammo would come back down to earth again I'd really shoot the heck out of it.
 
Washington has two sides to it, East and West. Living in NE Washington there are gun shops galore in the Spokane area and i have yet to have one charge me more than $20 for transfering one of my on line purchases. If bought from the dealer there is no charge for doing the required paperwork ( my friend in Calif must pay around $50 for completion of the forms when buying from the dealer...and then wait ten days to pick it up) and with my Concealed Carry permit i walk out the door with my purchase. A Washington resident get to gether would be fun if done in the center of the state to even out travel times ( it is a 500+ mile round trip from here to Seattle) and put faces with the often silly monicers we use on forums.
 
Hey OP, I just saw you went to Federal Way Discount Guns! I grew up in that town and love going to that shop! They definitely did themselves a favor by moving stores!
 
We all have paid more than we should and got some really smoking deals. It will eventually balance out. Hell personally I have taken HUGE losses on trades and still walked away happy....because I got something I liked and might actually use for something that sat in a safe or propped behind the bedroom door untouched for years.

after 10 or 12 guns you won't remember the "ok" deal you got on that 2022, just that you've had a hell of a lot of fun shooting it.

a few years ago, I got sick of regret for trading off or selling a gun so now my rule is unless I have multiple examples of a given gun,,,no selling or trading for me.
 
Your night sights should still be bright. They are meprolights IIRC. My SP2022 was made in 2007 and I trust my life with it. My night sights are marked with and 07 date code and still work great.

I have to ask how how did you test the night sights? Tritium should have a 12 year 1/2 life and most manufactures warranty them for that time. Call meprolight and see if they will replace the sight/lamps for you.

In the end you got a great gun even if you over paid a little bit. You have to remember the new ones have changes which have cheapened them. They also only ship with 1 mag and the best mags cost you $30+. So you really did not do that bad.

Enjoy the gun.
 
A fair price is anything a willing buyer will pay. We all wish that sellers would offer stuff dirt cheap so we can get a great deal just by being there, but that rarely happens. When I am selling something, I want to get as much as I can for it. When I ask too much, nobody buys it (or they negotiate for a better deal). That is the way things should work.
 
OP is comparing price to the lowest model on buds gun shop. I'm betting they don;t have night sights. I still want to know exactly what model he got.

Picture or it never happened.

This isn't a used 18 volt Hitachi hammer drill you can pick up on craigslist for 20% of the NIB cost. Firearms hold their value much better than most things guys buy. Knives, tools, fishing gear, and almost all the others drop like shot at 300 yards. Firearms hold pretty steady after an initial loss when they go from NIB to used.
 
dmas, welcome to The Firing Line. :D

If you are in Skagit County, you should have paid a sales tax when you did the transfer with the FFL holder. Even if you overlooked it in your price, you got a good deal on a fine gun.

Bart Noir
 
I wouldn't worry about the night sights. Honestly, if you can see them glowing then you probably should have a flashlight on and if you have a flashlight on you won't be able to see them glow. I am not particularly fond of night sights. I'd rather have a blacked out rear with a contrasting front, whether the front glows or not doesn't really matter to me.
 
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