finally disarmed of my ccw by cop

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i told him right away i had it (inside jacket pocket) when stopped on my mc.
he reached in and took it out (glad it wasnt in my front jeans pocket:rolleyes: ) he asks how long ive been riding- 20 years..ever been down? only when i was too drunk (got a smile at that):p
after checking the computer and lambasting me about the helmet law, he puts the clip in my front jeans pocket and the gun back in my jacket..says i can fix it back after i get away from here..
all in all, pretty amusing time..
no moving vio, just no signal and helmet
i feel like such a criminal
he ran up on my a$$ like i was a felon. hot dog cop:mad:


just in case you guys wondered how it MAY go down
 
That it easy on the Police Officer

The guy was only doing his duty. Don't take it personally. We who carry are the best of the law-abiding citizenry. He knows that. I don't blame him for giving it back to you in "pieces." Unless you were in his shoes, you couldn't know how cautious he has to be all the time just to be able to go home at the end of his/her shift. Love the police. They're worth it!:)
 
"he ran up on my a$$ like i was a felon."


You must not have been gellin!

Seriously though, this got me thinking.....should we as CCW holders always volunteer that we are armed if stopped for a traffic offense? I've never read anything that said it's required. Some may think it's courteous, but is it really necessary just because they are LEO's? Maybe some LEO's on the forum could tell us what they would prefer armed (legally, the good guys) folks do in simple traffic stops.
 
should we as as CCW holders always volunteer that we are armed if stopped for a traffic offense?
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My understanding is, the laws vary by states, and some states DO require you to notify an officer when you are carrying.

Hmmm, maybe I should check out packing.org before I post this...
 
Yes tell them that you are a CCW holder and armed. Then just sit there with your hands on the wheel or handle bars and let them do what they want. In Colorado, it is specifically stated as part of the CCW regulations that the officer has the right to confiscate the weapon for the duration of the stop.

Deez.
 
"My understanding is, the laws vary by states, and some states DO require you to notify an officer when you are carrying."


I wasn't thinking outside the box (Florida) when I posted. :eek: I'm reasonably sure it's not required in Florida (I need to check out packing.org too). I just don't want to unreasonably upset an officer if I don't need to. If it's the law, then it's (obviously) a totally different situation and doesn't matter what we think.
 
"Unreasonably upset"

Peweester40--
I just don't want to unreasonably upset an officer if I don't need to.
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How upset would the LEO become if he had to deal with you officially and discovered you were packing and had NOT told him? LEO's want to know of any potential risks to themselves BEFORE they begin dealing with a person. You may be the most law-abiding and non-violent person in your neck of the woods, but the LEO doesn't know that when he begins the official business.

The Texas requirement is for the CCW holder, pulled over by a LEO, to keep his (empty) hands in sight, and tell the LEO first thing, "I am CCW certifed, and I am armed. How do you wish to proceed, officer?"

That tells the LEO what he needs to know, right away, establishes that the CCW holder is going to be cooperative, and puts the LEO in charge. That seems like a very sensible idea to me.
 
I was watching an episode of Cops tonight and the officer asked the guy if he had any guns or knifes on him. If it was me I would have had to say - sure how many you want.

Good thing I don't get pulled over much. :D
 
"How upset would the LEO become if he had to deal with you officially and discovered you were packing and had NOT told him? LEO's want to know of any potential risks to themselves BEFORE they begin dealing with a person."


I've had a cop pull a gun on me before........long story, I'll make it brief. I was at my work some years ago, after hours at night. The business is in a not so cozy part of town. As I was fumbling with the keys to get in the door of the office, someone yelled (while spot light suddenly blared) "Hands in the air!, above your head!, where I can see them! NOW!. Now walk backwards toward my voice, don't look back!." Before it was all over, I was on my knees, with my legs crossed, and my hands interlocked on my head, with a gun to my back while the officer made calls in to verify I was an employee.

So, I may have a different perspective about 'potential risks'. Should the LEO beleive you when you tell him you are a CCW holder, or do criminals not ever lie?
 
How upset would the LEO become if he had to deal with you officially and discovered you were packing and had NOT told him? LEO's want to know of any potential risks to themselves BEFORE they begin dealing with a person
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I took the ccw course and never mailed in my application because of things like this. The reason I wanted to carry was after several incidences of very large and younger people attacking me.

I get tired of police saying theyre concerned about THEIR safety. Well I'm concerned about my safety also. I don't want police or bad guys hassling me. I want to live in peace and safety but the fact is I can't because both the police and the bad guys have more rights than me. If I carry a gun I offend the police. If I don't carry a gun the bad guy punches my lights out.

I'm not happy with either situation.
 
re- ran up on me....

the only thing got me p.o.d was he went flying up on mei wasnt speedin- no speedin ticket
wasnt doin a wheelie, etc.
this guy mustve been 2 ft away b4 i stopped (maybe he thought id outrun him)

thats why i like galveston, we dont get hassled for bs like that..
craig
p.s. you MUST inform coppers here youre packin
theyll find out w/ their comp. you got a chl anyway...
craig
 
ZEN,
I'll start out in a diplomatic way.
I don't understand your reasoning in this.
You've had problems in the past which made you decide to get your CCW.
You took the class.
BUT NEVER FOLLOWED THROUGH BECAUSE YOU OBJECT TO LETTING AN LEO AWARE THAT YOU HAVE A FIREARM ON YOUR PERSON????:confused:

"I get tired of police saying theyre concerned about THEIR safety."
"I don't want police or bad guys hassling me."

Besides being a soldier in a war zone, how many other professions do you know of that would put you in a position to be shot on a daily basis?
And you think that an LEO checking the validity of your permit and/or asking questions regarding your weapon is a hassle.

Think of the situation from THEIR viewpoint and you may just change your mind.
Or perhaps there are other ISSUES at play in your case.:rolleyes:
 
Just a matter of semantics, but your concealed permit is a CPL or CWL.

CCW is what you are charged with when carrying without a permit....;)
 
Regardless of circumstances or the law, when pulled over I will always inform the LEO that I have a gun. Things go much smoother when they know of it. I am not a "suspicious looking character." However, if they search my car or see any hint of a weapon they will react swiftly and I will have a gun pointed at me by a very nervous cop.

The worst thing that will happen if I tell him is that my weapon will be out of my hands for 10-20 mins. Seems like small price to pay.
 
It's not required here in PA to tell an officer you are carrying. That being said I would rather tell an officer I have a CWL and that the weapon is on me then have him think I am trying to hide something. With most law enforcement it is all about respect and honesty. If I'm pulled over for a speeding ticket I'm not gonna argue with him because he or she is just doing their job. If I have a problem with it I can always take it up in court.

When I was younger I was pulled over plenty of times for speeding and never pulled out the car or treated badly. I was polite and respectful and sent on my way. Heck I told on officer I was speeding becaues I just found out my PLaystation 2 came in. He laughed and let me off with a $75 ticket for doing 17 over the speed limit. My ticket should have been double.

I rather err on the side of caution with honesty then get shot or looked at as a suspect.
 
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