Federal Weapons Permit (National Carry) ?!

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How do I go about getting one and does it actually exist?
This sounds like a myth - my uncle says that they are notoriously hard to get.
Is this real, what does it entail to obtain one, and if so is it restricitive to caliber?
I worked for TSA, and am now a USCG armorer, just wondering how to "ease the pain" traveling and such. I have a CCW - but the hassle :rolleyes:
Thanks guys!!
 
Can you elaborate?
I was under the impression it allows you to carry, unrestricted (provided you pass the background check and whatnot) and is a "CCW on steroids."
(Uncles words, not mine.)
Anyone?
 
Considering how intensive various states' CWP requirements are, I think a national CWP would require many...many hours of class time, training etc etc.
 
Your Uncle is mistaken. There is no document that will let an American Commoner carry a gun nationwide. There are very few badges that will let a cop carry nationwide.
 
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He was mistaken, I guess. LEO's can really get something similiar, though?
What LEA's/other agencies issue these?
Just for reference, since I can't get one might as well spread the word if it ever came up in conversation.
Some Marines tried arguing with me and the MPs on New Years cause "they're military, the can buy and carry whatever they want." Not was I taught in FLETC!
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Marine #1 had a M9 (dirty as hell, too) and Marine #2 had purchased maybe 400 rounds of 9mm off base.
No no no! :o
I had assumed they would know better being FAST members...
 
Nothing like the wisdom of a young Marine. If these guys are in possession of any rounds or a weapon on base the next place they are going to see has bars on the windows and doors. Leavenworth is the next stop after that. I used to drive prisoners from the brig at Mirimar down to 32nd Street Naval Station. Every time it was a young Sailor, he would talk all the way down to the base about how he had it all figured out. More wisdom from the youth of America.
 
I don't know what the military can and can't do, but not even retired secret service can get a "federal ccw". Simply doesn't exist to get. When they are active secret service, I'm sure they can carry everywhere... not sure how active duty military relates to that.

Theres a big difference between an active federal agent and a federal CCW.
 
Nothing like the wisdom of a young Marine. If these guys are in possession of any rounds or a weapon on base the next place they are going to see has bars on the windows and doors. Leavenworth is the next stop after that. I used to drive prisoners from the brig at Mirimar down to 32nd Street Naval Station. Every time it was a young Sailor, he would talk all the way down to the base about how he had it all figured out. More wisdom from the youth of America.
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Well, should this really shock anyone? The local police quite often don't know the law, not surprised that a soldier might not know it either.

That's not a knock on police or soldiers, I respect and thank both for their service... but they're not lawyers.
 
Yup...

They were disciplined. No Leavenworth, just (kinda excessive) PT, and forced to do traffic duty up in Port Hueneme (Ventura CA).
Seeing as they were FAST, the MP's were scared and intimidated.
In the end, turns out the M9's (found later to be plural) were lifted from Pendelton...how I never heard.
I lost some faith in the MPs that day...
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Retired Secret Service can't Nat carry either?
Damn...I have run into so many intel/field USMC/USN/USA squads since Sept. 11, but know I know most were B.S.'ing...
"I can carry anywhere int he nation!"
Yeah right.
I can only do so much as the CG gets almost no recognition or respect - the USN regularly "borrows" our SIG P239's for FAST/Drug Interdiction and they always come back water logged, uncleaned, etc.
Sorry about that soapbox session, but it is a prevalent problem.
 
My father has one. He is a retired FBI agent and will turn 80 this July, he retired after 30 years of government service. Last year, June 2004, George Bush signed a law allowing retired law enforcement officers and active full time law enforcement nationwide concealed carry.

The active duty officers must be qualified to the requirements set forth by their state law enforcement agencies. This is posing a problem for a couple of states, Wi is one that I remember, as there is no state standard qualification for law enforcement, each jurisdiction is responsible for setting their own standards.

For the retired LEO program, the retired officer must qualify at the standard set by their home state. My father lives in Oklahoma and was required to shoot two 50 round qualifiers, one from 25 yards in and one from 25 yards back to 50 yards. Using one of my 3" S&W mod 65's that are DAO, that 79 year old man shot a 96 and 94 out of 100 possible on the two courses of fire. I WAS AMAZED!!! He retired in the late 70's and still has it. He did get his permit and can now carry nationwide.

Strictly speaking this is not a 'federal' concealed carry permit as it is issued by the state of residence, but it has the backing of the federal governement and it is good nationwide notwithstanding any city, county, or state laws to the contrary.
 
H.R. 218, "The Law Enforcement Officer's Safety Act" was signed by President Bush on July 22, 2004.
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And a great move on the part of GWB it was.
Now as a retired LEO I can carry legally almost anywhere I travel across the U.S. ;)
 
And a great move on the part of GWB it was.
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Couldn't disagree more. All it served to do was further drive the wedge between Citizens and Special Citizens; to further dumb our kids down to the concept of Handlers and Subjects.
Rich
 
Well, disagree all you like, it's law.

You'll never hear me say or quote me from something that I've written on any board in regard to this issue that there's an "us" and "them". That mindset or mentality only comes from the sour grapes people.

Put in 25 years as an LEO as I did and you too can have the right under H.R. 218 or Public Law 108-277 to carry throughout the USA.
 
If you're a fat-cat anti-gun politician like Diane Feinsten, you can get yourself declared a Federal Marshall to allow you to carry nationwide, as I understand it.
 
JMC-
Understand I wasn't taking a shot at you, your background or your career. I just do not like laws which fail to provide equal protection; I do not like privileges granted to one class of civilian simply because of their career choice; I do not like "class distinction".

In short, I disagree. But that hardly makes either of us "wrong". Fair enough?
Rich
 
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