Federal primers packaging

You are intentionally deflecting and still have not answered a very simple question.
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It's in the book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQA6tBYAvms


Deflecting? Consider motive, Bart B. furnished a link to a down load for R. Lee's book on modern reloading, First Edition. I said in my opinion R. Lee was not fair to Federal, then there is the Second Edition. It is not my intentions to break anyone's brain but material was added. The reloader that gave me my copy of R. Lee's book has the First edition. I thought it would be nice of me to give members an opportunity to read the book after downloading, first edition.

In his second edition he thanked contributors of material and components. The 'thank you' was separated from the section covering primers and priming tools. For most the 'thank you section' does not hold the attention of the reloader.

R. Lee did not thank Federal, Federal did not donate primers to be tested. R. Lee makes it very clear, he did not test Federal primers, and Federal did not donate primers to be tested.

Lee makes it clear, Federal primers are dangerous, all of my primers are dangerous and demand respect, Lee, in my opinion, thought Federal primers were more dangerous, powerful and sensitive. And that is my criteria for primers, more powerful, more sensitive and dangerous.

F. Guffey
 
Hind sight is perfect, it could have been a good ideal when they decided to go big then there is now. Now we have many reloaders that just can not deal with the large box. I have a large flip tray, I can section the sliding sleeve to drop primers on the smallest of hand primers.

I like the primers on their side, I like the containment.
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Where has anybody stated that the simply cannot deal with the larger box Federal uses?

Not liking how something is packaged or stored does not equate to not being able to deal with something.

I have flip trays too - it's really as simple as the fact that the Federal primers being stored in larger boxes and on their sides simply makes it more difficult and time consuming than every other manufacturer that uses a fairly standard flat packaging, not to mention the bulkiness of the packaging means I can store less primers in the same area I have allotted for primer storage.

If something is more difficult to me than it should be, and there is a comparable (or better) product that is easier to use, I gravitate towards the easier to use product. It does not mean that I cannot deal with the more difficult product - it simply means I prefer to use the easier one. Again, a very simple concept.
 
Deflecting?
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Yes, deflecting. A simple question was asked after you made an assertion. You have still yet to actually answer the question. Instead you have typed a whole lot of words in circular motions around the actual question.

You are great at typing a whole lot of words, but the simplest of answer to something you stated as fact eludes you.

I have no motive - only that I dislike when simple questions are asked that go unanswered by those they are asked of.

I believe the poster asked you to point out the page and chapter, or location in the book. You still have not provided what should be a very simple response.
 
Just think, all of this started with some brand of delivery truck hitting a bump in the road..........................:::::...................or not. :confused:
 
In one or two short paragraphs or less, can anyone provide a biased or unbiased explanation as to why the R. Lee book seems to be so shrouded in controversity (which is what I seem to be gathering about it)? One possibility I suppose is that it may only recognize Lee tools as the only way to go
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The book is not shrouded, it is the failure on the part of the reloader to read and comprehend.

F. Guffey
 
Just think, all of this started with some brand of delivery truck hitting a bump in the road..........................:::::...................or not.
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I said:

reminds me of the story about this guy, no name, no town, just this guy. When I tell stories like that I start with "You are not going to believe this", that is the beginning of a story that did not happen, something like MOTHER GOOSE, BROTHERS GRIMM, it is a fairy tale, it did not happen.
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And then I said:

The book is not shrouded, it is the failure on the part of the reloader to read and comprehend.
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Being able to discern fact from fiction and or truth from nonsense should be a requirement. The story about the truck blowing should have started with "Once upon a time" or "You are not going to believe this".

F. Guffey
 
Ok. This Lee guy ( Bruce, Jim, John) What ever. The point is- Are federal Primers more apt to go off than any other brand. IMHO- With the thousands and thousands I have loaded I will go with NO. I find the storys of them going off in the tube on the way down to be seated in a case- Ummm loading so fast that the tube got hot from friction and did it?. How many in here have had a primer go off on them?. Second-- Of those that did -Were they Federal primers that it happened to. We have a very broad spectrum of loaders in here, we should be able to come up with a answer and put this to rest. As for this Lee guy--Don't know the guy and after all this am even more not intrested in him.
 
Somehow or another, in 40 yrs of hand loading, I have never managed to have a primer go off by itself while seating, loading the tube, or any other way. that includes the ones that I have managed to crush in sideways, upside down, and the live ones that I decided to de-prime with the press. There have been a LOT of Federal primers through my weapons. Maybe it is because I never used any Lee tool to prime with. :eek:

OK, I'm gonna go rub my lucky horseshoe now...:D
 
Condor Bravo, I think the big issue with Richard Lee is some of his beliefs and reasoning about firearms and reloading are contrary to what others use and do that produces better results. But Lee's reloading tools are good for their price.

Sierra Bullets nailed Lee to the cross over Lee's claim that Lee's Factory Crimp Die made their bullets shoot more accurate. That led Lee to print info saying not to crimp cases on Sierra bullets; or something like that.

I don't think Lee knows the difference between a water reservoir dam break and the back end of a rifle barrel.

That 5-shot, 1000 yard benchrest record shot with ammo made with Lee reloading tools bears careful scrutiny. Simple reasoning says one 5-shot group out of several hundred of them will be very small. Was everything perfect? Or did all the variables at hand cancel each other out for the most part? It's impossible to tell. What's the size of the biggest group that ammo shot; the one with all those variables adding up in a few directions?
 
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Thanks for the explanation. That's more or less what I seemed to be picking up. The only Lee equipment I have are some carbide handgun sizing dies and could do without the aluminum lock rings with the rubber O rings. I replace those with the 1"steel rings from Dillon. Those are especially good when space and clearances are a premium within progressive tool heads.
 
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