Evidence for difference between Finn M39 and Russian 91/30
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ksstargazer
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Hmm. Only Finns made model 39's. Folding bayonet cutouts? 4 different sights on a M39? I've got to see pictures.
Cutler - Yes, sorry I honestly meant westinghouse. I had winchester on the mind at the time as I am searcing for a used winny 94 and has preoccupied my time and thoughts.
Kss - I do not have the folding bayo cuts on the barrel rifles anymore but they were also on Finns at Gander Mountain in Elyria Ohio, they prob still have em as they had $599 price tags on em. The M44 bayonet would not fit it. The sling cut out ones I had almost two years ago but had also seen them at the Berea Ohio gun show recently on a table full of about 100 different Mosins, I believe the dealer was Medina Shooters supply, I have no clue if they still have them ot not. Of the sights, I have two of the 4 different ones on hand and will take a few pics when I get a chance, the differences were Curved Vs Straight ON my M39's as received and not fussed with, inset and outsetted in the base (makes up the 4 styles). Yes, only the Finns made the MN39, I was stating I had a lot of Mosins and some from Rem and Westinghouse (mistakingly said winchester).
Kss - I do not have the folding bayo cuts on the barrel rifles anymore but they were also on Finns at Gander Mountain in Elyria Ohio, they prob still have em as they had $599 price tags on em. The M44 bayonet would not fit it. The sling cut out ones I had almost two years ago but had also seen them at the Berea Ohio gun show recently on a table full of about 100 different Mosins, I believe the dealer was Medina Shooters supply, I have no clue if they still have them ot not. Of the sights, I have two of the 4 different ones on hand and will take a few pics when I get a chance, the differences were Curved Vs Straight ON my M39's as received and not fussed with, inset and outsetted in the base (makes up the 4 styles). Yes, only the Finns made the MN39, I was stating I had a lot of Mosins and some from Rem and Westinghouse (mistakingly said winchester).
zombieslayer
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I really love my m39. Its got a good solid feel, and shoots very well. I've had other mosin variants and I like them all, but IMO these are the best. Where can I find one of those reproduction bayo's??
Flipper 56
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Aw C'mon that is an easy one. I have a Finnish M28/30 that looks like a canoe paddle but will eclipse an M-39 any day. Experiment with handloads, those Finnish Mosin-Nagants are staggering to the imagination.
I am new to the Finn Mosins - but I do not think they (M39) had cut outs for bayonets from the Finn Arsenals. They have a heavy slot sitting under the barrel, part of the forward band, for the bayonet.
Specifications for the most known versions:
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinSpec.htm
You will notice the M39 is longer and heavier than the M44. M44's shorter barrel does impact accuracy and range. But it is sure neat to see the visible fireball when you shoot one...
As for the M28/30 - yes it is supposed to be a little bit more precise than the M39 - I think it is due to the bore differences, and the prudent viewpoint change of the Finns to ensure their rifles would shoot captured ammo...
http://surplusrifle.com/ is a good resource as well for Mosin and other Mil Surplus rifles... The disassembly article was very informative...
WHERE TO FIND REPRODUCTION FINN M39 BAYONETS:
http://myoldrifles.com/
Click on Bayonets then the Finland Flag - they are year stamped 1999 to ensure they are not easily mistaken for real ones... $150 is the price listed... NOTE: I have no experience with this seller, and they do periodically post auctions on gunbroker of bayonets...
Specifications for the most known versions:
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinSpec.htm
You will notice the M39 is longer and heavier than the M44. M44's shorter barrel does impact accuracy and range. But it is sure neat to see the visible fireball when you shoot one...
As for the M28/30 - yes it is supposed to be a little bit more precise than the M39 - I think it is due to the bore differences, and the prudent viewpoint change of the Finns to ensure their rifles would shoot captured ammo...
http://surplusrifle.com/ is a good resource as well for Mosin and other Mil Surplus rifles... The disassembly article was very informative...
WHERE TO FIND REPRODUCTION FINN M39 BAYONETS:
http://myoldrifles.com/
Click on Bayonets then the Finland Flag - they are year stamped 1999 to ensure they are not easily mistaken for real ones... $150 is the price listed... NOTE: I have no experience with this seller, and they do periodically post auctions on gunbroker of bayonets...
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I ordered a Nice MN 39 From GunsNAmmo.
Pat Burns,
Hopefully it will be here within the week.
The Bluing is worn, but is supposed to have a very good bore, and the Stock is in very nice shape.
I cant wait till it gets here.
Now all I have to do is get a period correct sling.
I plan to fire the Rifle, and have also thought about using a 1903 Springfield Sling, It would not be the correct sling but I thought it would work well, and probably look good.
Pat Burns,
Hopefully it will be here within the week.
The Bluing is worn, but is supposed to have a very good bore, and the Stock is in very nice shape.
I cant wait till it gets here.
Now all I have to do is get a period correct sling.
I plan to fire the Rifle, and have also thought about using a 1903 Springfield Sling, It would not be the correct sling but I thought it would work well, and probably look good.
I got my M39 from Pat Burns as well. Everything was as advertised, but the bore is more worn than was stated. Even so, it will hold under an inch and a half with surplus Czech ammo, better with new Barnaul 203 soft points. It really likes that stuff. Great rifle. Loads of fun.
MR Henry
I thought about that a minute ago, I was looking at their website, and noticed that all of the Rifles listed, said they had good barrels.
Kind of wishing I had spent the extra hundred bucks and got an un issued one.
And My Rifle hasnt even arrived yet. LOL
Im Sure its in fine shape.
An inch and a half group though is definately something to smile about though.
I thought about that a minute ago, I was looking at their website, and noticed that all of the Rifles listed, said they had good barrels.
Kind of wishing I had spent the extra hundred bucks and got an un issued one.
And My Rifle hasnt even arrived yet. LOL
Im Sure its in fine shape.
An inch and a half group though is definately something to smile about though.
Frankly I am glad I got a well used one. The unissued ones will likely hold a better group, but the used ones have character. I am a bit of a history nut, like most of the folks here, and these old guns just ooze history. I like old guns with patina and wear marks. When they shoot tight groups with cheap ammo that is a big plus.
Thanks Ron,
The Stock is what brought me to this Rifle,http://gunsnammo.com Com has actual pictures of each Rifle. I looked at them all, wanted them all, but chose this one. "This is my Rifle, there were many like it but this one is mine"
The Stock is what brought me to this Rifle,http://gunsnammo.com Com has actual pictures of each Rifle. I looked at them all, wanted them all, but chose this one. "This is my Rifle, there were many like it but this one is mine"
I will JHenry,
It may be Sunday Afternoon before I get a Chance.
I cleaned the barrel out today, its in pretty good shape.
Not prestine, but good rifiling all the way down.
I wont be able to buy any more Surplus Rifles for a while, as my budjet is shot for now.
I bought this one, and my wife bought a very nice 9130 for her dad.
He already opened it, and is tickled pink.
His rifle was not bought with the C&R we paid more but she bought it from Gander Mountain, it has to be the cleanest mossin I have ever seen, It practicly looks like a brand new rifle, the Barrel is perfect, and it had the full accessery kit, and it all looked new. The only thing that looked old was the sling, and even it was in good shape.
I started firearms collecting, liking the Mauser Rifes, but after shooting a Mossin, I fell in love with them.
It may be Sunday Afternoon before I get a Chance.
I cleaned the barrel out today, its in pretty good shape.
Not prestine, but good rifiling all the way down.
I wont be able to buy any more Surplus Rifles for a while, as my budjet is shot for now.
I bought this one, and my wife bought a very nice 9130 for her dad.
He already opened it, and is tickled pink.
His rifle was not bought with the C&R we paid more but she bought it from Gander Mountain, it has to be the cleanest mossin I have ever seen, It practicly looks like a brand new rifle, the Barrel is perfect, and it had the full accessery kit, and it all looked new. The only thing that looked old was the sling, and even it was in good shape.
I started firearms collecting, liking the Mauser Rifes, but after shooting a Mossin, I fell in love with them.
Ron C
Well its Sunday afternoon, My Son and I just got in from our Mosin Shootout.
The Bad Guys were Soda Cans, at about fifty yards.
The new Rifle shoots great, and is a definate threat, to the Invading Soda Can Troops.
I noticed my Son Shooting over with his 91 30 And also noticed his rear sight set on about 400 yards. It was nice to have a competitive edge, so I took my time telling him about his sight setting.
Long story short, my new M 39 Rifle shoots great, but after my 14 year old Son re set his sights, he still out shoots me
We were using Silver Bear Soft point ammo, it worked great, and didnt have a single misfire.
I am so glad that my Son and I have something in common, we both love surplus rifles, and enjoy shooting together.
Well its Sunday afternoon, My Son and I just got in from our Mosin Shootout.
The Bad Guys were Soda Cans, at about fifty yards.
The new Rifle shoots great, and is a definate threat, to the Invading Soda Can Troops.
I noticed my Son Shooting over with his 91 30 And also noticed his rear sight set on about 400 yards. It was nice to have a competitive edge, so I took my time telling him about his sight setting.
Long story short, my new M 39 Rifle shoots great, but after my 14 year old Son re set his sights, he still out shoots me
We were using Silver Bear Soft point ammo, it worked great, and didnt have a single misfire.
I am so glad that my Son and I have something in common, we both love surplus rifles, and enjoy shooting together.
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