Ever think about how crazy todays schools are?

GoSlash27 and coinneach,

Thanks for the reminder that the problems with the educational system are not about liberals or conservative, but mostly about parents. We, as parents, have allowed our local school boards to let our schools get off track. We have not insisted, through our election of school board members, on good educational values. As voters, we don't get fired up when the curriculum changes, but we can move heaven and earth for a new stadium. While we can't control everything, we could do a lot more than we are doing.
 
Ritalin ? Here in NY state there are schools with as many as 25% of kids on Ritalin !!! You want to talk about drug abuse ?:eek:
 
It's awful! They send the parents doctor-shopping until they find one that will fill a prescription, and drug the kids to make them settle down and pay attention like good little zombies. Mark my words, those kids are going to be all screwed up by the time they're grown.
And then there's this 'no child left behind' garbage. Making kids fill out 'mission statements' and 'goal roadmaps' like they're corporate middle-managers, teaching the kids how to give the appearance of knowing what they're talking about.... why on earth is the Federal government involved in education anyway?

On the subject of 'little terrorists', my son can't bring his leatherman to school, can't even keep his magnesium firestarter on his keyring.

There's much to be said for schools being the ultimate totalitarian regime...
 
Schools now are basically baby sitters for working parents and they do a poor
job of that. I would not send a kid to public school now, just an opinion of an
old timer who lived through many changes in our country. I have no illusions
of the good old days but have a full understand of the good and bad of both
times.
 
Can you imagine how long a kid could sing that today without some Bush loving,paranoid wingnut teacher calling 911 from her classroom and having the young terrorists arrested and expelled for the rest of the year?
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Ill still stand by my original statement.Id bet $100.00 to a dime that 95% of the time somebody would freak ,it would be a guns are evil and need to be banned Kerry/Clinton/Gore loving liberal.
 
And Outcast, you went to school in the 60's, 70's and 80's, and they didn't have detention? Is it possible you're attaching a bit of nostalgia to the spanking fetish stuff? I wasn't in school then, but most of the literature about kids in school mentions detention time from Little House on the Prairie on. Search your feelings; you know it to be true.
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No Don, I'm not saying that there was no detention, but in the rural Tennessee schools that I attended, most of us were "Farm Kids" and for the most part, Teachers, and Principals tended to use a more "Hands-on" approach:D

I honestly do not ever recall being in detention, but I still recall the more "direct" approach.....As I seemed to get it almost daily:o
 
If you wanna see how ridiculous "zero tolerance" and "PC" have become, check out http://www.thisistrue.com

An Example form this weeks edition:

ZERO TOLERANCE -- THE NEXT STEP: The Waterbury, Conn., Board of Education
has announced plans to crack down on student absences. Only proof of a
"serious chronic illness" would suffice to excuse a child from school
under its new plan. "We now are looking for school to be the priority,"
said Kennedy High School assistant principal Michael Yamin, who served
on a committee to draft the new regulations. "I think we need a policy
with some teeth in it," said Walsh School Principal Erik Brown. Try
this on for size: even a letter from a doctor would not be enough to
excuse an absence, the new policy says, and appeals by parents for any
absence ruled "unexcused" would be limited to one each for elementary,
middle and high school. A fine of $25 per absence would be enforced by
sending police officers along on home visits by attendance monitors.
(Waterbury Republican-American) ...One guess as to whether this policy
applies to teachers, school administrators, and School Board members.
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Nowadays, about half the stuff I did in high school (and even Junior high) woulda got me expelled permanently (and I went to a VERY strict Catholic high school). Heck, I carried a switchblade all through high school, as I routinely hitch-hiked to home or to work rather than wait 2 hours for the school bus. Had they "caught" me, I probably woulda had it taken away, and received a few days detention. Now, they'd call in SWAT!

When I was a kid (well a young teenager) we lived on a dead-end street, with about 40 houses that was completly surrounded by fields and woods, and would go hunting regularly. I'd just sling my gun on my back and walk up the street, and my friend would join me on the way. We might have 2 to 5 "kids" walking up the middle of the street, carrying guns. No one ever said a word. Today, I'm sure we'd AT LEAST get a visit from the cops.

As far as "advocating violence" (WildAlaska), what I taught my kids was the exact same criteria I have used for years: You fight ONLY if you have no other option. If they were ever involved in a fight at school, and could look me in the eye and tell me they had NO other choice, I would fight to make sure that they were not punished for defending themselves. But, the ONLY justifiable use of violence, was self-defence.
 
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