Ever think about how crazy todays schools are?

Te Anau

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This morning something made my brain think about a song my friends and I used to sing on the way to and in school when I was a boy.You know it.
"Hi-ho,hi-ho its off to school we go with hand grenades and razor blades Hi-ho,Hi-ho." Can you imagine how long a kid could sing that today without some Kerry loving,paranoid liberal teacher calling 911 from her classroom and having the young terrorists arrested and expelled for the rest of the year? Every week almost,I hear of some 9 year old being expelled for drawing a picture of a bear holding a shotgun or some story very similar to that.These are the end days of America as it has been for the last 230 years.:(
 
So, let me get this straight: you set up and berate your own caricature of a teacher for overreacting to a song ... then lament that situation as somehow symbolizing the "end days of America."

There's overreacting ... and then there's overreacting. :rolleyes:
 
Do you think its appropriate for children to glorify violence?

In today's political climate and all the blissninny's? YES.

Can't have the kids getting mental blocks over political agendas. It keeps them balanced and focused. Yes, it's ok to fight back. Don't start it, just finish it. That's not glorifying it either, just keeping perspective.;)
 
In today's political climate and all the blissninny's? YES.

Really? So as a parent (or not as the case may be) you would have no problem with a group of boys chanting "hey lets slap those biatches" or "the teachers suck put em up against the wall", "burn the school, shoot the principal"....

Bet you would like your kids to listen to rap music too... :)

Hell, it just kids, let em say stuff like "nigger" and "kike" and "wetback", the hell with PC, just let em curse and threaten and act like yahoos...

People need to learn a little class, some things arent suitable. I can choose not to watch the crap on TV or in the movies, I wouldnt want my kids exposed to the same stuff at school if I can help it.


WildjustmyownschtickAlaska
 
Dude, why do you have to always have such extreme thinking? Te Anau's little rhyme had no kike-nigger-racist tone to it. You got no sense of humor.

Of course all things are not suitable, and the kids should be taught to have some class. His point was that the silly little limericks that we used to sing would get the kid kicked out and the secretary of defense on the phone. Thats over the top dude, and he's right.

singing a little rhyme with no malicious intent shouldn't be outlawed because some people do it maliciously racist with intent to defame and cause emotional hurt. You come across like...violence is bad and there's never any place for it and lock em up who do.

Calm down. There's a time & place for violence. Defense against life/injury/HONOR.

I taught my kids that it's ok to smack that kid in the mouth that slurred his mother who wasn't there to defend herself. Guess what? They did it. Got suspended. I went in and told them I taught them that its ok to deliver violence to defend mothers honor and the kid must've said something along those lines. Suddenly the kid was studying the floor. He admitted it. Suspension reversed and the other kid got suspended. I was proud.

What the heck's wrong with teaching a kid that?

(Yeah, I hate rap music). Middle of the road dude. There's non suitable violence, suitable violence, humor, and teaching kids to think on their feet instead of throwing blanket declarations at them as if ALL violence is bad. Ya missed on this one, get a sense of humor and lighten up.:)
 
Of course all things are not suitable, and the kids should be taught to have some class. His point was that the silly little limericks that we used to sing would get the kid kicked out and the secretary of defense on the phone. Thats over the top dude, and he's right.

No dude hes wrong and so are you. kids shouldnt be running around thinking about taking hand grenades to school, much less shouting it out

violence is bad and there's never any place for it and lock em up who do.

There is NEVER anyplace for unjustified violence and violence is bad....

There's a time & place for violence. Defense against life/injury/HONOR

Honour? Where are we living, Syria??

I taught my kids that it's ok to smack that kid in the mouth that slurred his mother who wasn't there to defend herself. Guess what? They did it. Got suspended. I went in and told them I taught them that its ok to deliver violence to defend mothers honor and the kid must've said something along those lines. Suddenly the kid was studying the floor. He admitted it. Suspension reversed and the other kid got suspended. I was proud.

That, with all due respect, is sad...answering words with blows...answering someone who is "dissing" you with violence..hey just like they do in the inner city..."yo mama"...pow, pow pow

get a sense of humor and lighten up

Ill get a sense of humour when we get to the point that kids arent shooting each other becasue they think violence is cool...and getting it from their parents...


WildandthemoreviolenceouttherethemoretheywailaboutgunsAlaska
 
Could be me, but I took the question to mean that small things we did as kids are no longer accepted. Things like singing stupid little songs, having a buck knife on your belt, keeping a .22 rifle in your car so you can stop for an impromptu hunt or plinking session on the way home from school. If that was the intent, I absolutly agree that it's a shame we've come to the age when kids can't be kids and have to be so pc that instead of expressing themselves they have to think about every word they utter and they face felony charges for the simple pleasure of wanting to shoot a squirrel or rabbit after school. I've had my share of run ins with the pc monitors at my daughters school and couldn't believe the drivel they were spewing about it being unacceptable for a 12 year old girl to be talking about things like shooting guns. Gee, you think she might have some influence from her LEO mom and military dad.
As the saying goes "Why can't we all just get along."................................................Because some people are just too stupid to get along unless they are led along by their pc sniveling noses.
 
Can you imagine how long a kid could sing that today without some Kerry loving,paranoid liberal teacher calling 911 from her classroom and having the young terrorists arrested and expelled for the rest of the year?
Get out of my head! It's like you've known me forever. I am paranoid, and I find John Kerry's teasing about taking away all my guns and unilaterally withdrawing from Iraq simply delightful. And of course, it's no trick at all to convince a police officer to arrest a kid because he sang a naughty song on school property--they love that stuff! They certainly wouldn't just look at you with pity in their eyes and walk away--not the Middle School Gestapo.

Every week almost,I hear of some 9 year old being expelled for drawing a picture of a bear holding a shotgun or some story very similar to that.
Uh huh. Without Googling, can you tell us about the most recent instance you remember? Must have been at a year-round school.

His point was that the silly little limericks that we used to sing would get the kid kicked out and the secretary of defense on the phone. Thats over the top dude, and he's right.
He's absolutely right except for the part about how much trouble the student would get into for singing an inappropriate song. Well, actually, I suppose that's just about all there was to his post. . . . so, no. Not so much with the correctness, there. If a kid were doing that song on the playground, I'd file it away along with classics like "Batman Smells" and "Marijuana, LSD." If he were doing it in class or some other time when it's not appropriate to sing silly songs, he'd get a warning, then lunch detention, then after-school detention, just like any other inappropriate outburst. It's not exactly rocket science.

Did you all have "Marijuana, LSD" on your playgrounds? It went like this (you must remember that this was the 1980's)

(To the tune of "Frere Jacque")

Marijuana,
Marijuana,
LSD,
LSD,
Betty Crocker makes it,
Ronald Reagan takes it,
Why can't we?
Why can't we?


Face it. You're jumping in without really knowing of what you speak.
 
I'm with DonR101395 on this. I think the poster was just trying to use a fictional and colorful way to say that he feels political correctness and excessive fear, especially of guns, seem to have gotten out of hand in society, as well as in the schools. I have read news articles (cant remember any exact details) I believe here and/or on THR and APS where political correctness and over-reaction have caused some children problems in school due to something they said or did, with NO malicious intent, that in the past (like when I was in grade school) would not have even raised an eyebrow. As an example:http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/viewtopic.php?id=2684


Oregon teen heads to juvenile detention for pinching another boy's nipple
The Associated Press

GOLD HILL, Ore. — A teen who pinched and twisted another boy's nipple while standing in line at a deli has been sentenced to four days in juvenile detention because he refused to write a letter that explained his actions.

The 16-year-old, was convicted of offensive physical touching in July 2005, after the victim's parents complained to Gold Hill police. The Crater High School student paid a $67 fine and served three days of community service.

"I emptied trash cans, mowed lawns and shoveled gravel," the teen said.

But the teen's refusal to comply with the final piece of his sentence will cost him four days in detention. He was required to write the letter during four classes put on by Mediation Works, which operates the victim-offender program for Jackson County Community Justice.

Mary Miller, executive director of Mediation Works, said the purpose of the letter is to prepare teens to be accountable for their offenses.

"They don't have to apologize," she said. "But they are required to be accountable."

The offender is required to describe the act in detail, explain "thinking errors," "express empathy" and describe any resultant life changes.

Miller said the program is "often a very, very healing experience between the victim and youth offender."

The teen said he presented a rough draft of his letter in the third session. He said he balked when told he must also describe his "criminal thought processes."

He said that would imply malicious or criminal intent, and "none of that applied to my feelings or actions."

The teen said he had no criminal intent because he considered the victim to be a friend at the time of the incident — which he deemed horseplay. Including the language sought by Mediation Works, he said, would turn his prior court statements into lies.

"It was a matter of conscience," the teen said. "I figure the worst is already over."

Ken Chapman, a Community Justice juvenile probation supervisor, verified the teen's sentence.

"The judge found a willful violation of the court order," Chapman said.

Copyright © 2006 The Seattle Times Company

Just my opinion though.
 
In 6th grade (~1985) my buddy brought one of these to show and tell:

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We had this cute little social studies teacher at the time. She just made sure it wasn't loaded and let him explain how his grandpa brought it back from the war, passed it down, etc. He said it was full auto...never did get a chance to shoot it. :rolleyes:
 
Hmmmm. I never sang such a silliass song in my life, nor, to the best of my knowledge have any of my kids. My bevy of offspring attended various public and private schools. They've all turned out to be outstanding Republican citizens. :D
 
When my daughter was in third grade, they had Daddy comes to school days and we talked about our job.

The week before the dude was a homocide detective that brought murder pictures. My child said, I better be good - so I brought a human brain in lucite and a jar of dog brains for everyone to look it.

BTW - would all of you open fire if the RO twisted your nipple at the IDPA match?
 
Geez ken, you sound as if you are fantasizing about an ideal world where kids are raised by two loving parents without any hint of dysfunctionality.

Your point would probably be accepted easier if you went a little deeper with it:

Most kids today are raised in homes where no respect is present, therefore they never learn what it really means to be 'disrespected', nor do they learn anything about 'honor' or even 'morality'. If they are blessed with having two parents that are still married (to each other) chances are both parents work, the kids spend most of their time unsupervised, or they are in broken households.

The concept of accepting responsibility is seldom passed on to kids. Instead, they are typically over-privileged and unappreciative.

What worked for our parents raising us, cannot be used as the model for raising your kids today. You might have been able to fight for your honor as a kid on the playground, but the kid your child smacks for saying something disparaging might just pull out a gun and shoot your kid.
 
When I was young we played "Smear the queer", Dodgeball, Toilet (See how many people you can fit on the slide and then all go down at once.) at school. My friend, my brother, and I made a treehouse out of old pallets we got from the tractor repair place in town. We hauled the pallets to my friends house on his lawn tractors trailer. Heck some kids came to class dressed to go hunting after school with their parents.
 
Bet you would like your kids to listen to rap music too...
Don't take it out on rap music. While some of the more innane and popular artists seem to glorify violence and mysoginy the same can be said for any genre of music. It irks me when people attatch blame to music yet have taken no time to actually listen to the messages being put forth by the genuine artists, not the glorified mixers on MTV. Of course it's fun for old white guys to paraody it by going "yo yo homey yo" and making themselves look like jackasses but it's about as accurate as me claiming that country music is all about drinking beer in the trailer and wife beating.

The 16-year-old, was convicted of offensive physical touching in July 2005, after the victim's parents complained to Gold Hill police. The Crater High School student paid a $67 fine and served three days of community service.
Three days of community service for a Purple Nurple? :( I'm afraid of what an Atomic Wedgie would get you...aside from a new NSA agent tap tap tapping at your lines. :eek: :P
 
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