Ever have a dud centerfire factory ammo round

Never saw it until this past weekend.

Friend and I were shooting, and 2 rounds out of a box of 50 failed to fire. 180 gr FMJ Remington ammo. GOOD hits on the primer on both, and both were rechambered and tried again. Neither went bang.
 
The only ammunition I ever had that failed to go off was surplus rifle ammunition, with perhaps one in 20 that were duds. But never for anything new, including rimfire. However, I did happen to catch a revolver cartridge, don't remember what, that had a distince dent in the side, as if someone had tried to drive a nail through the case. They say you should always check your ammunition carefully before using and I guess that's why. Also, I once got home from the store, a K-Mart, I think, with a box of .30-06 ammunition to find there were only 19 rounds in the box.

Remember when pistol ammuntion came loose in the box?
 
I have never had a true dud with a centerfire. I have had some failures to fire, but all of those were weapon related, not ammo related.
 
I had surplus Turkish 8mm Mauser fail to fire... it was old stuff. Have gotten boxes of ammo with one or two rounds missing, also 9mm ammo where all the headstamps didn't match. Saw a CCI .44 mag round out of the factory box that had a wide tear down the side from the case mouth to just below the bullet which allowed the powder to trickle out. I have a box at home which is labeled "Proof" that I put all my weird ammo in that I find at the range. The "Proof" means it's proof that not all factory ammo is perfect and that reloaders can really muck things up at times. My pride and joy is a .44 mag reload in which the primer is seated sideways!
 
I have them all the time. It must be me. I once had 14 rounds of a 50 round box not fire. Even with repeated strikes with the hammer. I was shooting my CZ-100, with the 10 round mags, and had 4 not fire. I pulled the trigger 20 times then racked the slide to eject the bad round, and the primer look like all the ones the that did fire. I had them with Rem UMC (green and white box) WWB (only like 5 per 1000, oddly this is the best ammo I have ever shot), Aguila in 9mm, and 22lr, 32acp (that was the the box that had 14 duds), Fioccci 9mm (that is the one that I in the CZ-100), Wolf (had like 5-6 in a 50 round box). Now, I have never had a dud with my 50 year surplus ammo, and never had a dud with any rifle ammo (yet). Oh I can't count how many 22lr that are laying where I dumped them. Like I said, it must be me, cuz, I have them all the time, but my friends are going `wow I have never seen a dud before'. But that my life.....
PS: My 25acp, has never had a dud (also yet), and I don't shoot my 45acp to have a dud yet. But I do shoot a LOT more 9mm than anything else, like 1000's more, so the numbers are against me on that one.
 
Yes.

Nearly a dozen Remington duds over the years. Handgun and rifle cartridges.

Far more dud centerfire rounds than I've had dud rimfire rounds.
 
joyrock

when you were creating your character, you forgot to put any points into luck. you are what we call critically unlucky
 
I had one box of 9 mm WWB 100 count that had, as I recall, 3 duds. They appeared to have good strikes on the primer, but failed to fire. No problems before or since (several hundred rounds) in that pistol (Glock 26), or for that matter with that brand of ammo.
 
I've had 3 Federal .45 Hydrashocks fail to go boom. They were from the same lot, and were rounds that I had carried for a while. No, I didn't fall in a river with them, put them through the laundry or anything else wierd. Some had been cycled through a few times, just going to shoot them. They would not ignite in 4 different 1911's I had at the range that day. No, I don't carry Federal Hydrashock any more.
 
robhof

I have about 300; 38 and 357 reloads from my 1st run with a Lee turret press, and tumble lubed bullets. The first batch that I made and fired within a few weeks worked fine, put the rest in an ammo box in the garage for a few years and then started having FTF's and squibs. I pulled some and found the powder was a waxy wad, been pulling them on bad weather days, slowly getting the pile down, started with 500+. I now wipe the base of any cast bullet and still use tumble lube in my 9mm. I read about the lube problem on a reloading forum and have had no more problems with the bottom wipe fix. Oh, I also had assorted boxes of jacketed bullets in the same ammo can and all went boom, so I knew it was the cast combo and upon pulling, I knew the culprit.
 
I had 2 in one box of WWB 9mm, but I'm 90% sure it was the gun. It was my 1st year owning a handgun, a Taurus millenium pro from a pawn shop. (VERY USED) and in the box of 10o rds, 2 were struck by pin but no bang. At the time I knew very little about guns and ammo so I didn't know what caused it. I sold the gun soon after this happened anyway. Now hundreds of rds of WWB through my G19 and no problems. Never had a rifle cartridge do that, though my friend claims his bushy AR did this on a wolf rd. But I cant confirm that one
 
Only 2, a 357 and a 45 ACP. considering the hundreds of thousands of rounds I have fired in 40+ years I'd call that pretty good. It's why I may plink and practice with my home rolled but when it comes to serious my guns are loaded with factory.
 
Just one.

Wolf 9mm. About halfway through the box I had one squib and lodge in the bore. Didn't finish the box. Didn't buy anymore Wolf ammo.
 
Yes, I've experienced both short-loaded (low powered & squib) and inert/defective primers on factory rounds made by at least 3 of the major American makers over the years. Sometimes a round which didn't fire the first time would (when later checked) fire after a second or third attempt, but then other times the primer was deeply struck and would never ignite.

I've also experienced a few failures-to-ignite with primers when I was involved in reloading many years ago. I've observed many, many more such failures when people used commercially remanufactured ammunition, as well as their own, or "a friend's", reloaded ammunition on qual courses of fire.

Then again, I fired my first handgun over 50 years ago and have spent the last couple of decades doing a fair amount of shooting as a LE firearms instructor & armorer.

Sometimes I might go a few months without someone experiencing a problematic round, let alone one which involved being either short-loaded or having an inert primer, and then other times it seems like it's happened a couple of times within a single month. I can think back to one busy qual day many years ago when I ended up with at least 5 (maybe 6?) factory 9mm rounds, spread between two different major makers (different ammunition orders), which didn't fire in different hammer-fired duty guns. What were the chances?

I'm less surprised when this sort of thing happens with one of the "less costly" product lines, too.

It's not uncommon for LE/Gov contract ammunition bids to include language which specifies the maximum allowable number of such problems which might occur in orders (shipments, case lots, etc).

If a manufacturer is running a line which can produce 1M rounds in a 24 hour period, is it really all that surprising that not all of them many be produced with totally perfect components?
 
Those 14 32acps were in one day, same box. I picked up the brass and de-primed them all, and the ones that did not fire did not have any primer stuff in the cup. I thought it was funny.

greyson97: Where do I get the luck points? Critically unlucky? Like I said, thats the story of my life........
 
No duds as of many thousands of rounds, including a very modest amount of Wolf.

Although I did find a American Eagle with the primer in Backwards....And another with a bullet in backwards. With both the rest of the box was fine however.
 
1 remanufactured Blackhills 223 round and a bunch of Remington 22 lr ammo.

This is a pretty good testament to modern factory ammo because I've gone through thousands upon thousands of rounds of factory ammunition over the years in a variety of cartridges.
 
While I was taking my NRA Firearms Training I had a dud. The instructor made sure to tell us about them and said it usually won't happen. Of course I had to tell him that if it happened to anyone, it would happen to me. While shooting I had a dud. Following his instructions, I raised my hand. He thought I was bs'ing him. He finally came over, cleared my pistol and said that was the first he ever had in his class. I hate to say I told you so, but...:rolleyes:
 
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