orchidhunter
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We paid for that Mall Ninja Squad's training. orchidhunter
dual wielding, why?
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David Armstrong
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In all fairness, lots of LEOs overseas, especially if they are city and not federal level, do not have many funds to operate with, are given few supplies, etc. So the uniforms are often whatever surplus they have been able to scrounge up, and they often have to carry things in what we would consider non-professional holders. I remember training some folks once who literally had to have their own holsters handmade by one officers wife (she handsewed them out of canvas) because there was no money to buy holsters for the officers. And one team showed up with matching backpacks. They were Barbie backpacks, but they were proud of the fact that everybody had one and they all looked the same. And these guys still go into some of the worst situations you can imagine. No armor, no electronics, no Kevlar or Nomex, sometimes not even a pink or blue backpack.
As AndrewH stated, don't knock it. I have done it many times at the range. I can shoot as well weak handed as most regular shooters can shoot strong handed. Not bragging, I just practice it and I don't find it difficult. I can consistently place my shots COM at 10 yards in both targets. I would not consider that technique for longer distances, though. For CQB, I would definitely use 2 guns simultaneously if I am out numbered.
protectedbyglock
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I can shoot ok with my left hand as a right handed shooter, but I'm not into trying to use both at the same time. Seems like it would be hard to concentrate well on one target. I'd rather get the job done with all my concentration on one target with one gun, rather than risk missing on both because my concentration wasn't focused on either.
I saw a guy do it once with 2 .357mag revolvers. That was quite interesting. He was a big, crazy, fat guy. By the last 2 shots, I thought he was gonna fall over backwards. Very neat to watch, though.
I saw a guy do it once with 2 .357mag revolvers. That was quite interesting. He was a big, crazy, fat guy. By the last 2 shots, I thought he was gonna fall over backwards. Very neat to watch, though.
44 AMP nailed it on the head. The subject of the backup gun is not foreign to us here. Most who do it carry something smaller as their BUG, sometimes a smaller version of the same gun, like a GLOCK 19 and a GLOCK 26.
I used to carry a GLOCK 20 on my hip and a Kahr PM9 in my pocket. I liked the Kahr platform, but I wanted something stronger than the 9mm caliber. I looked into .45 caliber pocket guns, but couldn't quite find one I liked (this was before the Kahr PM45 or else I'd probably be carrying that right now). I realized what I really wanted didn't exist: a 10mm pocket gun. So I decided to get a second 10mm gun for my other hip. I already had the smaller GLOCK 29, but I figured if I could manage a G20 on right side, why not another on the left side? I couldn't think of a reason why not, so I got another G20.
If I ever need a gun, I plan to pull out the one on my strong side (right) only and establish a two handed grip. But what if my right arm is shot or otherwise unavailable? I can grab that left gun with my left arm and I'm in business. I have practiced drawing and shooting one handed with the arm extended (both sides), and I have practiced drawing and shooting one handed with the gun in retention position (both sides). I can reach each hand across and draw the opposite gun, but it's sure not easy, and I'm not sure how I would perform that under stress.
I have practiced pulling the left side gun out with my left hand and assuming a mirror image of my regular two handed grip, with my left hand as the trigger hand, and-here's one that didn't occur to me until I actually did it without thinking- drawing the left side gun with my left hand and establishing my usual two hand grip with the right hand as the trigger hand. It takes the smallest fraction of a second to pass the gun from my left hand to my right as I'm acquiring my preferred two hand grip.
Plus, you can share mags between guns, something people who carry a semi-auto and a J-frame revolver can't do. It's also the fastest reload possible. I used to carry two extra G20 magazines. I still do, only now one of them is ready to go inside an extra gun.
Remember, you might lose that first gun, or it could suffer a catastrophic malfunction.
I've never shot two guns at the same time, but I'll try it one day, just for kicks.
I used to carry a GLOCK 20 on my hip and a Kahr PM9 in my pocket. I liked the Kahr platform, but I wanted something stronger than the 9mm caliber. I looked into .45 caliber pocket guns, but couldn't quite find one I liked (this was before the Kahr PM45 or else I'd probably be carrying that right now). I realized what I really wanted didn't exist: a 10mm pocket gun. So I decided to get a second 10mm gun for my other hip. I already had the smaller GLOCK 29, but I figured if I could manage a G20 on right side, why not another on the left side? I couldn't think of a reason why not, so I got another G20.
If I ever need a gun, I plan to pull out the one on my strong side (right) only and establish a two handed grip. But what if my right arm is shot or otherwise unavailable? I can grab that left gun with my left arm and I'm in business. I have practiced drawing and shooting one handed with the arm extended (both sides), and I have practiced drawing and shooting one handed with the gun in retention position (both sides). I can reach each hand across and draw the opposite gun, but it's sure not easy, and I'm not sure how I would perform that under stress.
I have practiced pulling the left side gun out with my left hand and assuming a mirror image of my regular two handed grip, with my left hand as the trigger hand, and-here's one that didn't occur to me until I actually did it without thinking- drawing the left side gun with my left hand and establishing my usual two hand grip with the right hand as the trigger hand. It takes the smallest fraction of a second to pass the gun from my left hand to my right as I'm acquiring my preferred two hand grip.
Plus, you can share mags between guns, something people who carry a semi-auto and a J-frame revolver can't do. It's also the fastest reload possible. I used to carry two extra G20 magazines. I still do, only now one of them is ready to go inside an extra gun.
Remember, you might lose that first gun, or it could suffer a catastrophic malfunction.I've never shot two guns at the same time, but I'll try it one day, just for kicks.
Just for shiggles
SavageMOA. That was a GREAT pic. I really like the Evian trauma plate on the pistolero. hahahah
You should never underestimate the awesomeness of the Dual Wield. I gave it a try at the local range one time with my g-26 and g-17, both with 17+2 mags. The accuracy surprised me. At 5 yards I was able to hit a man sized target at least 10 times.
SavageMOA. That was a GREAT pic. I really like the Evian trauma plate on the pistolero. hahahah
You should never underestimate the awesomeness of the Dual Wield. I gave it a try at the local range one time with my g-26 and g-17, both with 17+2 mags. The accuracy surprised me. At 5 yards I was able to hit a man sized target at least 10 times.