Does your "go to war" carry differ from your EDC? Why??
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A pause for the COZ
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For war AR10 in 308 win., Pistol I have lots to choose. Maybe a 1911.
I may need to suppress and move.
EDC XD's 45
I may need to suppress and move.
EDC XD's 45
Stay at home with a rifle? Nah, I'll take a tank, and an armored division as backup.
For CCW I prefer my EDC to have similar characteristics to my nightstand gun (which is as close to my "go to war" sidearm as I get). Currently I like to carry a sub compact Glock (26 or 30S) with the full size mag as a spare, and a happy stick in the truck. Full size version with a streamlight sits in the nightstand safe.
I only shoot the sub compacts a smidge worse than the full-size versions and they carry much, much better.
Capacity doesn't really matter all that much to me, I just stick with what carries well and is easy to shoot. The second point rules out the tiny pocket guns for me since I can't shoot em worth squat (and don't care for shooting them either).
For CCW I prefer my EDC to have similar characteristics to my nightstand gun (which is as close to my "go to war" sidearm as I get). Currently I like to carry a sub compact Glock (26 or 30S) with the full size mag as a spare, and a happy stick in the truck. Full size version with a streamlight sits in the nightstand safe.
I only shoot the sub compacts a smidge worse than the full-size versions and they carry much, much better.
Capacity doesn't really matter all that much to me, I just stick with what carries well and is easy to shoot. The second point rules out the tiny pocket guns for me since I can't shoot em worth squat (and don't care for shooting them either).
cc-hangfire
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I understand your question, & yes, my EDC is different cause I wouldn't "go to war" in dress slacks & a button up dress shirt.
I do have a "Break Glass in case of War" collection.
Daily carry 40SW and or .45ACP M&P,Glock and or Kahr
5.56 rifle AR-15 and or KelTec SU-16C
Home same set-up + Mossberg 500 12GA.
War collection - various 7.62 rifles, handguns in 44MAG, and 10MM. Saiga 12GA.
I don't carry anything from war collection as if I shoot badguy with 10MM some hotshot lawyer will try to label me a killer as I'm using a round the FBI found to be too powerful for daily use. As for the rifles the ammo is bulky and heavy for the most part and my 40 round mags in 5.56 is good enough for social work.
If we do get into a SHTF situation all bets are off and I'll use anything and everything I have.
Daily carry 40SW and or .45ACP M&P,Glock and or Kahr
5.56 rifle AR-15 and or KelTec SU-16C
Home same set-up + Mossberg 500 12GA.
War collection - various 7.62 rifles, handguns in 44MAG, and 10MM. Saiga 12GA.
I don't carry anything from war collection as if I shoot badguy with 10MM some hotshot lawyer will try to label me a killer as I'm using a round the FBI found to be too powerful for daily use. As for the rifles the ammo is bulky and heavy for the most part and my 40 round mags in 5.56 is good enough for social work.
If we do get into a SHTF situation all bets are off and I'll use anything and everything I have.
Dusty Rivers
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lables are bad for us
if I call my EDC a go to war gun, Hillary will ban it--UNLESS we all go vote for the Donald and get good court judges.
So I'm not going to call any of my guns "go to war" guns,, but I get the jest of the OP's thought. A go to war gun should be whatever we think we will be able to find the most ammo for when ours runs low. 45, 9, 40 ?
if I call my EDC a go to war gun, Hillary will ban it--UNLESS we all go vote for the Donald and get good court judges.
So I'm not going to call any of my guns "go to war" guns,, but I get the jest of the OP's thought. A go to war gun should be whatever we think we will be able to find the most ammo for when ours runs low. 45, 9, 40 ?
Going to war at this point of my life means the war coming to me. Breakdown of the government or a major influx of ISIS. At that point you are fighting for your life against multiple attackers either trying to kill you for what you are or for what you have. Throw out the CCW rule book. I would use my AK first and foremost with plenty of full mags stashed in good defensive locations. I would carry 2 sidearms a double stack 10mm for longer shots in case I run out of AK ammo and a double stack .45. I would also have my "getoffme" Kel-Tec P32 in my pocket. Only difference between go to war and every day carry for me is I don't take the AK and I choose one or the other big bore instead of both.
Yes. As a plainclothes LEO, my daily carry is a handgun (4" 1911), with a 2" J frame BUG on my ankle. My "Go to war" is any long gun that's not a handgun. My handgun is to get enough fight down range to get me to a long gun.
If I left the house KNOWING I would be in a gunfight today, I would have left every handgun I own at home and brought a couple of long guns and lots of ammo and mags.
If you're asking what I think you're asking, then no, my EDC is the same all of the time, on duty or off.
I don't do "mouse guns" for convenience. I train with and carry the SAME GUNS always, even though I own somewhere north of 50 guns.
seeker_two
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What war are we going to? And what are our individual assignments?
The OSS fought their part of WWII with pocket pistols in .25ACP & .32ACP. My LC9 would be comparable in size, but more effective.
Depends on the mission....and if I choose to show up.
The OSS fought their part of WWII with pocket pistols in .25ACP & .32ACP. My LC9 would be comparable in size, but more effective.
Depends on the mission....and if I choose to show up.
Being 62 years old, I do not foresee me going to war, but that thought is one reason I upgraded my EDC from a J frame 642 to an XD Mod 2 3.3" 9mm sub compact. It has 13 + 1 rounds on tap with another 16 in an extended mag in my pocket.
The wife and I eat out frequently and I felt the need to have a few more rounds available should the need ever arise.
I still carry the 642 on occasion as it is so comfortable to carry though, mainly for walking the dogs and such.
Joe
The wife and I eat out frequently and I felt the need to have a few more rounds available should the need ever arise.
I still carry the 642 on occasion as it is so comfortable to carry though, mainly for walking the dogs and such.
Joe
Handguns in battle are last ditch, "OMG, I've made a terrible tactical error and lost or let my rifle go dry.", weapons and status symbols.
"...and brought a couple of long guns and..." One. That's 100% reliable. Not a couple. And a bunch of mags.
Oh, and you close the hatch and tell the loader to load a HEAT round. Maybe APFSDS. Nobody's going to give any options of what you can carry if you're "going to war". snicker.
"...and brought a couple of long guns and..." One. That's 100% reliable. Not a couple. And a bunch of mags.
Oh, and you close the hatch and tell the loader to load a HEAT round. Maybe APFSDS. Nobody's going to give any options of what you can carry if you're "going to war". snicker.
Model12Win
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No, it doesn't. Only the carry method changes.
My 9mm Пистолет Макарова will either be in an IWB holster for concealment, or on my hip in it's issued flap holster if concealment isn't critical, for anything I'd need a pistol for:
If I need more firepower, than I will use it to fight back to the rifle that I should never have left behind in the first place.
My 9mm Пистолет Макарова will either be in an IWB holster for concealment, or on my hip in it's issued flap holster if concealment isn't critical, for anything I'd need a pistol for:
If I need more firepower, than I will use it to fight back to the rifle that I should never have left behind in the first place.
Wethepeople01, Your thread started began with "many of us deliberate" which indicates you have thought about it. Yet, you failed to mention your answer. Well??
I don't have to deliberate. I have not been to war. I went to what was called a Conflict in Nam. Yes, I had a M1911A1, but my primary firearm was an M-16. A handgun is not a practical or even a sensible go to war firearm.
Generally, you do not think about what you will take to war. You are trained by the branch of service you are in with the weapon which will be issued to take into combat.
One of the most effective instruments you might have access to is a good communications device like a radio. With it, you can call in artillery fire support, combat air support, additional troop support, supply support and even medical evacuation support.
There is no comparison between your everyday carry weapon in peace time in a civilized nation than a go to war weapon in a battlefield environment. It is a comparing grapes and coconuts.
I don't have to deliberate. I have not been to war. I went to what was called a Conflict in Nam. Yes, I had a M1911A1, but my primary firearm was an M-16. A handgun is not a practical or even a sensible go to war firearm.
Generally, you do not think about what you will take to war. You are trained by the branch of service you are in with the weapon which will be issued to take into combat.
One of the most effective instruments you might have access to is a good communications device like a radio. With it, you can call in artillery fire support, combat air support, additional troop support, supply support and even medical evacuation support.
There is no comparison between your everyday carry weapon in peace time in a civilized nation than a go to war weapon in a battlefield environment. It is a comparing grapes and coconuts.
Old Bill Dibble
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Modernize some of that weaponry and throw in a few MRAPs and you are good to go.
I've been to "war" with a few combat tours; the pistol is a pretty small aspect. There are reasons many of the WWII pistols were small since your combat load is geared towards the mission with a rifle in mind.
Still, I understand the analogy you're trying to paint. I like and train with service-sized pistols, but when I CCW, it becomes a compromise. You can't prepare for every contingency and you can't carry everything you'll think you "need".
I would assume most of us who CCW spend more time training with that than our defensive rifle or shotgun. If "going to war" or a situation where your rifle is your primary arm, that will dominate your training and requirements; your pistol is a very much a secondary part of your kit.
Honestly, any pistol is better than no pistol and if you do have a rifle, you pistol is only meant to allow you an opportunity to fight back to your rifle. If you can conceal a Glock 19, great; if a small J-Frame or subcompact 9mm is best suited to your EDC dress attire, that's okay as well. Some people are more comfortable with a revolver or 1911 platform...just become proficient with it when it's your EDC CCW or your secondary arm when carrying a rifle.
ROCK6
Still, I understand the analogy you're trying to paint. I like and train with service-sized pistols, but when I CCW, it becomes a compromise. You can't prepare for every contingency and you can't carry everything you'll think you "need".
I would assume most of us who CCW spend more time training with that than our defensive rifle or shotgun. If "going to war" or a situation where your rifle is your primary arm, that will dominate your training and requirements; your pistol is a very much a secondary part of your kit.
Honestly, any pistol is better than no pistol and if you do have a rifle, you pistol is only meant to allow you an opportunity to fight back to your rifle. If you can conceal a Glock 19, great; if a small J-Frame or subcompact 9mm is best suited to your EDC dress attire, that's okay as well. Some people are more comfortable with a revolver or 1911 platform...just become proficient with it when it's your EDC CCW or your secondary arm when carrying a rifle.
ROCK6
No pistol is "enough gun" to take into combat. Real-world experience has shown the bare minimum to be a rifle-caliber carbine.
Which is precisely why the MHS is such a huge waste of taxpayer money. Since pistols are practically insignificant in combat, there is no good reason (other than to justify the salaries of ordinance officers and line the pockets of industry executives) to do anything other than pick the lowest-cost off-the shelf pistol design (since they are all equally insignificant and ineffective) or just keep the M9.
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PACraftsman
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Very thought provoking question. I agree with the logic CC in civilian scenario differs greatly from what's needed for "war".
A similar question might be, if the S*!@ hits the fan on the streets, do you want your EDC in your hands or something else?
A similar question might be, if the S*!@ hits the fan on the streets, do you want your EDC in your hands or something else?