Do you really think that 1911's costing a grand or more are worth it ??

This is ultimately a silly question. Is an Audi S4 Quattro worth two Honda Accords? Who cares? If you haven't shot a real custom 1911 you don't know what you are talking about, though.

My take on it is: if you can afford it then it is worth it. If you can't then it isn't. For me, my ~$1,500 BCP-customized Colt Delta Elite is absolutely worth it. Show me a $500 Glock that has the ergonomics, trigger, sights, and accuracy (<1" @ 25 yards) of my Delta Elite and I might reconsider. :p
 
I took the easy way out.I built up a 1911 the way I wanted it and the parts I trust my life to.I built it myself (1911's are not difficult to build) and have put over 700 rounds through it without a FTF.I don't plan on selling it because it is the first 1911 I have ever built and I have spent well under $1000 to make it.Not to mention that there are no plastic or MIM parts in it.
 
To Dave T.

I partially agree with you. You just proved what I have been saying here on these posts over and over again and that is that Aluminum frame guns just do not hold up.

On the other hand the orginal steel framed Colt is an entirely different breed of cat.

I choose this as the safest self defense gun and one that is every bit as reliable as the tupperware pistols.

Sorry but the Glocks just do not even make it to first base in regards to safety and accidental discharges. READ THE EXCELLENT POST BY MASTER BLASTER FROM A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO IN REGARDS TO GLOCK SAFETY. HIS REPLY WAS BASICALLY THAT It IS A GUN FOR THE EXTREME PROFESSIONAL.

AND I WILL ADD SOMETHING TO HIS POST. EVEN THE PROFESSIONALS OCCASIONALY BLAST THEMSELVES WITH THESE GUNS OR OTHERS. WR
 
Have to disagree with a couple of points that have been made.

First on resale/holding its value: If you buy a Glock, SIG, Berreta etc. NIB and fall out of love with it you you can usually sell it for about a 20% loss quickly without any problem. Try buying a new custom 1911 for $2000 and selling it for $1600 after a few rounds...Not likely.

Second if you want a $1000 1911 fine, but don't kid yourself into thinking your doing it because it's a lot "safer" than a Glock. If you pull the Glocks trigger it will go bang if you don't it won't. I like that in a defense gun. Thats why I prefer S/W revolvers and Glocks.
 
"I always get a good laugh when the tupperwear people or hightech sheet metal people start mouthing off how good their weapons are.

Anyone can buy a weapon for close range blasting but when it comes to a precision made target weapon that is capable of outstanding accuracy because it is has a good trigger, is balanced correctly, and is able to be gunsmithed to fit the individual needs of the user to enable him to more easily win in competition then the nod goes to the 1911. "

Yeah I get a good laugh too. Don't rest too long in your ivory tower, you might just fall out.
Unfortunately what works on the streets or on the battlefield may not be preferred in competition. Last time I looked I didn't see too many 1911 Raceguns as CCW pieces.
At the same time not everyone has a cool grand to buy a firearm that although they may not like, the "experts" at the gunshow, range or gunshop advised them to buy.
As for tupperwear and sheetmetal, I wouldn't laugh too loud, that "peon" with a $450.00 piece of polymer and metal may just know how to use it.
I have this strange feeling you believe that just because someone is utilizing a specific piece of machinery that they are automatically good with it?

Grow up.

:barf:
 
"precision made target weapon" That sums it up.

If your after a "target weapon" then by all means compare the price and features of custom 1911's to the cost of various Hammerili's, Beeman's and Walther GSP's and see what you like best.

It's only when people bring those $1000 competiion guns into the defensive handgun arena (which they raely fit into well) and try to make comparisons that the fireworks begin.
 
I have to agree with Wild Romanian and KPS. I took KPS route and bought a stock Colt Commander and built it myself with the features I wanted. I am in the process of doing the same with a full-size CD .45. One nice thing about this route is I start with a stock pistol, test for reliability, make a modification and test again. Then if anything doesn't work right I know exactly what to look at. With a custom gun I test it and have to send it back and hope that they can fix the problem or spend money with a local smith I can talk to and show them the problem. Plus, I get the pleasure of doing the work myself and seeing my modifications turn out a pistol fully the equal of a high dollar custom pistol.
 
I have this strange feeling you believe that just because someone is utilizing a specific piece of machinery that they are automatically good with it?
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That is exactly what he believes.

Shake
 
The silliest prices in the gun industry belong to "custom" 1911 pistols...Even more funny when they have reliability problems straight out-of-box.
 
I just paid a grand for a Kimber Compact CDP. Was it worth it? Yes and No. I think it's over-priced, but to get the features I wanted it was get the gun with all the bells from the factory or buy a cheaper gun and spend the rest of the grand making it look like the CDP.

Some day I'll spend a lot more and get a really fine 1911. Why? Because I want one. So to me it is worth it.

It's all a matter of personal taste. Is a diamond ring worth ten grand? I don't think so, but a lot of people do. Get over it.
 
I like my alloy Commander for a carry gun. Since it's an alloy frame, I don't use it for a lot of range work--and certainly not with full house loads. That way, I don't have to worry about it cracking. If it did happen to crack during a firefight, the fight would be over long before the crack became important.

Being a certified Old Fart, I live in a permanent condition of sticker shock. While I understand that small companies with relatively limited production have to charge higher prices, $1,000 for a Basic Pistol just grates on my nerves.

As I've said elsewhere, I'd just as soon start with a rusty clunker and build it up. The 1911 is about as simple to work on as any handgun ever made. The end result is reliable, accurate and pretty cheap. Sorta like me. :D

$0.02, Art
 
WHAT DO YOU SEE WHEN YOU FOLLOW A BMW?

You see someone who can at least afford the car, but not necessarily drive it well.

Same for guns; all the fancy crap in the world doesn't mean you can shoot. I know, 'cause I got a little fancy crap and I'm not much behind the trigger (although I probably practice more than most bad guys).

I'm NOT RICH; it took a looooooong time to collect the pieces of my custom 1911, and after all the time and money all I got is a nice 1911 (no, I don't give a rats ass if it gets dinged 'cause it's just a tool. A real nice tool.).

It's real nice so when I wear it I have high confidence, a priceless part of mindset.

Your results may vary.






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"all my handguns are high-confidence personalized fairly expensive METAL handguns"
 
Do you really think that 1911's costing a grand or more are worth it ??
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I think they are to the folks that own them.

I know a couple of guys that own HK91 clones that do everything my genuine HK91 does, but I think my 91 was worth every penny because I have what I wanted. I could've settled for a clone, but I wouldn't have been happy if I had settled. I think it's the same with high dollar 1911's owners.
 
My duty weapon is a SIG P-229 in .40 It does everything my Les Baer TRS does. However, the Les Baer has a much better feel to it and there is alot of pride in ownership.

For me paying 1600.00 for a gun was worth it because I wanted a really good 1911.

If you want a high end 1911 then buy it. If you want something else then buy that. Just train and be confident with whatever you choose.

In the end the BG won't know or care what he was shot with!:p
 
As I've said elsewhere, I'd just as soon start with a rusty clunker and build it up.

As I've said elsewhere, I'd just as soon start with a rusty clunker and build it up. The 1911 is about as simple to work on as any handgun ever made. The end result is reliable, accurate and pretty cheap. Sorta like me

Good post ART, I liked it all but I liked your humor best of all. Keep up the good work. We all need a little good humor now and then. Good Luck with your 1911's. I hope you have as much fun with them as I have had. W.R.
 
Yes I think SOME 1911s costing a grand or more are worth it especially since I carry one, sometimes two. YMMV & OALA
 
The bottom line is that, for now, it doesn't matter if it's worth it, because I don't have $1000 in the budget for a gun. In fact, I don't have $500. That's OK, because I have all the guns I need for now and other things to spend money on.

However, one of these days I will have the money, probably within the next ten years if certain plans work out. When I do, I want a true custom 1911. I didn't want one until I went to EOSM I and shot one of ArmySon's many customs. It was simply a dream to shoot. Whether it was twice the gun of my Glock, I don't know, but I knew that if I'd had $2000 of gun money at that moment, I'd have handed it over for that gun.

To me, it's the performance of that gun that matters, not the pride of owning a hand-fitted piece, but even so, I understand those who think in such terms. It's the way I think of knives; I'll pay more for a piece that Tim Lively or Tai Goo made with no electricity or power tools whatsoever than I would a CNC-machined Tactical DeathFang 2000.
 
Personally, I think it's a waste of good money, but it ain't my money being wasted, so who gives a sh--! I guess it depends on why you want it. If you want one to show off at the range or to compete with, I guess it's good for that. That's just not my thing. If you want it for defensive purposes, there are any number of others that are at least as reliable, if not more so. In a high stress situation, like a gunfight, I doubt hairsplitting accuracy is really going to matter. It's probably safe to say that just about anything you get these days is going to have acceptable accuracy in a defensive role. I love 1911's, but that's not what I carry. I try to be practical and not sentimental.
 
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