do you have a gun you'd trade for a $200 gift card?
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After watching a gun buy back leader smashing a vintage SXS shotgun, sidelock, english stocks against a cement floor, then smashing a weatherby look alike on top of it, I'd do anything to break that organization. I would have never been able to control myself if I had seen him do that in person.
There is a particularly painful place in hell, I hope, for the sort of people who burn books and records, and destroy magnificent pieces of art because they don't like them. Some gunsmith labored for months creating that shotgun. the last owner's widow or child was tired of looking at it, and took the $50. The owner is even now still screaming in his grave.
I am getting bloody red angry just thinking about it.
IF these hosebags only took the criminal type weapons off of the streets, great. But, they take, no questions asked, one of the most commonly stolen commodities, and then destroy them as if they have no intrinsic value. I can't understand how it is legal to purchase what could be a ten thousand dollar item from a person off of the street, without even taking identification or proof of ownership, and then, tossing it into a fire.
When I tried to turn my neighbor's annoying cat in for euthanasia, do you think that they did it no questions asked? heck no!
There is a particularly painful place in hell, I hope, for the sort of people who burn books and records, and destroy magnificent pieces of art because they don't like them. Some gunsmith labored for months creating that shotgun. the last owner's widow or child was tired of looking at it, and took the $50. The owner is even now still screaming in his grave.
I am getting bloody red angry just thinking about it.
IF these hosebags only took the criminal type weapons off of the streets, great. But, they take, no questions asked, one of the most commonly stolen commodities, and then destroy them as if they have no intrinsic value. I can't understand how it is legal to purchase what could be a ten thousand dollar item from a person off of the street, without even taking identification or proof of ownership, and then, tossing it into a fire.
When I tried to turn my neighbor's annoying cat in for euthanasia, do you think that they did it no questions asked? heck no!
I have a couple guns I would trade for $200 gift cards, assuming the gift cards truly had that value, and were at a place I would normally shop (the $25 gift card from Tiffanys my job once gave me as a Christmas bonus was essentially worthless).
However, I also don't like these gun buy-back programs. They generally assume, and project the message to the public, that guns in the population are absolutely a bad thing -- which is pretty much the opposite of the truth.
Another good point that was brought up is that guns are often stolen, and if the guns being turned in are stolen -- doesn't there have to be a check made to see if the gun is stolen, and return it to its original owner if so? Since, after all, it is that person's property, and not the property of the gun buy-back program. Receiving stolen property is also a crime, isn't it? Essentially these gun buy-back programs are fencing stolen property for the criminals, and then destroying evidence.
However, I also don't like these gun buy-back programs. They generally assume, and project the message to the public, that guns in the population are absolutely a bad thing -- which is pretty much the opposite of the truth.
Another good point that was brought up is that guns are often stolen, and if the guns being turned in are stolen -- doesn't there have to be a check made to see if the gun is stolen, and return it to its original owner if so? Since, after all, it is that person's property, and not the property of the gun buy-back program. Receiving stolen property is also a crime, isn't it? Essentially these gun buy-back programs are fencing stolen property for the criminals, and then destroying evidence.
Dr. Strangelove
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These type of things make me sick.
This reminds me of my grandmother selling off all my grandfather's tools in a yard sale after his death, his father had been a logger and a railroad man in the 1890's to 1920's.
There were two man crosscut saws, original railroad lanterns, screw jacks that sat on the rails and lifted steam locomotives for wheel replacement, etc., huge vises, picks, sledge hammers, etc., along with a huge amount of normal tools.
Old steam irons, Coleman stoves and lanterns, etc. It all went for pretty much nothing. She did keep the guns, she just wanted rid of the stuff and thought she was doing well to keep the family from having to deal with getting rid of it upon her death.
I was young and had no where to put the stuff, but she got maybe 5% of what it was all actually worth. Can't fault her, but I just hate to think of someone turning in a bring back Luger or something similar to one of these things.
It's just sad that some of the firearms going into these type things could bring a significant sum of money to folks that could probably use the cash.
This reminds me of my grandmother selling off all my grandfather's tools in a yard sale after his death, his father had been a logger and a railroad man in the 1890's to 1920's.
There were two man crosscut saws, original railroad lanterns, screw jacks that sat on the rails and lifted steam locomotives for wheel replacement, etc., huge vises, picks, sledge hammers, etc., along with a huge amount of normal tools.
Old steam irons, Coleman stoves and lanterns, etc. It all went for pretty much nothing. She did keep the guns, she just wanted rid of the stuff and thought she was doing well to keep the family from having to deal with getting rid of it upon her death.
I was young and had no where to put the stuff, but she got maybe 5% of what it was all actually worth. Can't fault her, but I just hate to think of someone turning in a bring back Luger or something similar to one of these things.
It's just sad that some of the firearms going into these type things could bring a significant sum of money to folks that could probably use the cash.
Ridge_Runner_5
New member
I doubt they run the serial number. That would put a large burden on their system and slow it down.
I say run down to the sporting goods store and buy a truckload of Mosin Nagants for $95 a piece.
I say run down to the sporting goods store and buy a truckload of Mosin Nagants for $95 a piece.
Uncle Buck
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None of my current guns are worth trading for a $200.00 gift card. But I would buy a couple of old shotguns and then take them in to trade.
(Would that be a straw purchase?)
(Would that be a straw purchase?)
aarondhgraham
New member
I have a Phoenix 22 pistol I would love to get $200 for,,,
I only paid $109.95 for it brand new,,,
And since it has never worked/fired correctly,,,
Making a profit on it would be a dream situation for me.
There is that part of my mind though,,,
That rebels at legitimizing a buy-back program,,,
Even though I would be making a profit by taking their money,,,
I somehow feel that by participating I would be getting my hands a bit dirty.
Moral decisions are always two-sided.
Aarond
I only paid $109.95 for it brand new,,,
And since it has never worked/fired correctly,,,
Making a profit on it would be a dream situation for me.
There is that part of my mind though,,,
That rebels at legitimizing a buy-back program,,,
Even though I would be making a profit by taking their money,,,
I somehow feel that by participating I would be getting my hands a bit dirty.
Moral decisions are always two-sided.
Aarond
Stressfire
New member
I'd rather part one out that participate in a buy-back.
Then again, ask me the same question when I'm broke and rent is due and I may have a different answer for you.
I agree with all of the misgivings.
I would, however, without a doubt donate every piece of trash I own to that good cause, simply because it would take money away from them. If I unloaded every useless relic I have that I don't care a hoot about I would have over $1,000 that they would never, ever be able to spend doing something else that damages gun owner rights, like advertising, lawsuits, or more gun buybacks.
that money, inspite of the fact that I'd rather put it to good use on my house, I'd probably spend supporting the shooting sports. I might even spend it on a dozen throwaways to use in the next one.
Is this taxpayer funded? if so, the people who approved this use of taxpayer dollars should be tarred and feathered.
I would, however, without a doubt donate every piece of trash I own to that good cause, simply because it would take money away from them. If I unloaded every useless relic I have that I don't care a hoot about I would have over $1,000 that they would never, ever be able to spend doing something else that damages gun owner rights, like advertising, lawsuits, or more gun buybacks.
that money, inspite of the fact that I'd rather put it to good use on my house, I'd probably spend supporting the shooting sports. I might even spend it on a dozen throwaways to use in the next one.
Is this taxpayer funded? if so, the people who approved this use of taxpayer dollars should be tarred and feathered.
Nickel Plated
New member
I wouldn't give them a thing. Even if I could turn a profit on an old junker, I just see that as legitimizing that program and I have no intention of doing that.
I'm especially dismayed at the people saying that they would turn in milsurps just to make a buck. Those guns are history and will never be made again. That's just wrong.
They don't donate them to museums, they destroy them. That means less milsurps for those people who wanted a good rifle and can't afford a $700 bolt gun.
It would be a great day when they run these programs and stand there looking like jackasses because nobody showed up.
Then again I wonder if they would be fooled by a couple of old airsoft guns. There's quite a few that are full-metal and can be had for way less than $200. Just hope nobody looks in the chamber.
I'm especially dismayed at the people saying that they would turn in milsurps just to make a buck. Those guns are history and will never be made again. That's just wrong.
They don't donate them to museums, they destroy them. That means less milsurps for those people who wanted a good rifle and can't afford a $700 bolt gun.
It would be a great day when they run these programs and stand there looking like jackasses because nobody showed up.
Then again I wonder if they would be fooled by a couple of old airsoft guns. There's quite a few that are full-metal and can be had for way less than $200. Just hope nobody looks in the chamber.
I have misgivings, as I dislike such programs and wouldn't want to lend any air of legitimacy to them. It would indeed be marvelous if no one showed up and they stood there like idiots the whole time.
But $200 is a lot of money. It might also be funny if a couple FFL's showed up with a bunch of junk and cashed out.
Have you seen or shot my Mosin, or the other guy's Mauser?
I doubt it. Although I don't know the specifics of this particular "buy-back", typically there are no questions asked and the firearms are destroyed without any checking. Seems to be a great way to get rid of a crime gun, if you ask me.
But $200 is a lot of money. It might also be funny if a couple FFL's showed up with a bunch of junk and cashed out.
Have you seen or shot my Mosin, or the other guy's Mauser?
I doubt it. Although I don't know the specifics of this particular "buy-back", typically there are no questions asked and the firearms are destroyed without any checking. Seems to be a great way to get rid of a crime gun, if you ask me.
I agree with the Wisdom of Aarond, as I seem to do fairly often. I have to think about the spirit and intention of the program more than the finances. Doing the right thing sometimes has a cost, and I couldn't participate in this to profit myself when the intent is repugnant, even though I appreciate the irony of taking the anti-gunners' money.
Trading Useless Junk...
...for useful barter is beating the fools at their own game. What we need to do is find a way to educate the populous against abuse of these programs and teach them to also beat these jerks at their own game. There are two outcomes if we're successful; 1. We'll make great profits against the anti-gunners' total lack of gain., or 2. The anti-gunners catch on and either stop such nonsense or modify their program. If the latter we modify our efforts.
...for useful barter is beating the fools at their own game. What we need to do is find a way to educate the populous against abuse of these programs and teach them to also beat these jerks at their own game. There are two outcomes if we're successful; 1. We'll make great profits against the anti-gunners' total lack of gain., or 2. The anti-gunners catch on and either stop such nonsense or modify their program. If the latter we modify our efforts.
Master Blaster 2
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Have an old Chine Nagint carbine with no bolt and wood that looked like it was lost under the sea.