Do you guys think HK's & Sigs are worth the money ??

You can get a lexus or you can drive an escort. They both run and they both can break down. You usually get a better ride in the lexus, but you can get one that was put together on a monday after the super bowl.

Good products listed here but you will generally have less problems with the good/expensive guns. plunker
 
Timex and Rolex, an excellent example!

Both billed as timepieces.

In the case of stainless models-

One is accurate to within 3-4 minutes per month (Rolex)

One is accurate to within 2-3 seconds per month (Timex).

Neither needs batteries.

One needs to be serviced every couple years or so (Rolex).

One never needs service (Timex).

One has excellent resale value (Rolex).

One does not have very good resale value (Timex).

One is prettier than the other I suppose, and recogized as a symbol of wealth (Rolex).

So, when it comes down to it, the Timex is the superior watch. The Rolex is the superior jewlry.

Can we use the analogy that the HK is the Rolex of handguns? No. While the HK is overpriced, it is probably better at being a handgun then the Rolex is at being a timepiece.
 
I think that the HK USP compact with the new LEM trigger would be nice. LEM is their light double action, sort of like the QA quick action on the Walther P99.

how many hours will this new gun last you?
;)
 
Buy and shoot what you like. I like HK's. Are they expensive?YES. Are they worth it? IMHO YES!
Do I wish I could buy another P7 for the price of a Glock? HELL YES! Am I gonna buy a Glock instead? NO. Why? Because I like HK's better, and I'M WORTH IT!! :cool:
 
I buy, collect & use what I can afford.

I don't laugh at or bitch about other peoples' decisions.
 
SIGs are definitely worth a few extra dollars. I own a P226 and P239. Both are great guns! By the way, the P239 cost me $429 just a year ago, so they can be found at reasonable prices.

I can't comment on HKs or Glocks since I've never had a chance to shoot either.
 
I guess I dont mind spending good money if the gun just flat out performs !!
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Just my $00,000.02...

Check this site, and see for yourself if it "performs":

http://www.streetpro.com/usp/torture.html

How else do u need a gun to perform? I mean, there's a lot of LEO's & military personnel out there who trust their lives to these units (US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) , if i remember correctly). The amount of R & D these makers could have poured into developing these guns must be very substantial, hence the price. I can''t say that of other brands, sorry 'bout that. But if these guns are good enough for Special Ops teams , then its good enough for me. :)
 
SIGs are worth it. The ergos of a 225 or 220 are superior to anything else I've shot, with the Walther P99, S&W Model 39 and "Colt" 1911 close behind. But the accuracy of the SIGs is better than the P99. The reliability of the SIGs is better than the M39 or 1911.

SIGs worth it? You betcha!
 
This is how I look at it: you need to look beyond the initial price of the gun, and factor in how much you are going to spend on it throughout its life. Yes, I can save $200 and buy a glock instead of an HK, but I'm still going to buy the same holster, same ammo, same cleaning supplies, etc... So, to keep things simple, lets say a glock is $500 and an HK $700 - the HK costs 40% more up front. After buying $1000 of accessories, ammo, etc now, the HK is only 13% more. This figure will just continue to shrink more and more over the life of the weapon so that the initial cost difference is miniscule compared to what you spend altogether.

Rocko
 
That is an interesting question because nobody wants to feel like they paid too much.

I picked up my HK Compact 45 for about 650 around two or three years ago.

If I had to toss all of my pistols and just keep one, I'd keep the HK.

Mine has been flawless and it is the most accurate and easiest shooting 45 I have ever shot. The machining is without a flaw that I can find, the barrel is just beautiful and the simplicity of the take down is almost a dissapointment for a person who likes to tinker (like me). Nothing to it, just an elegant tank.

The best bet is to keep your eyes open and find a deal on one. Then you can gloat or just smile knowingly.
 
First pistol I ever bought was a Sig P220. Still have it and love it. They are not all that expensive now, but saving for it in college took some sacrifice. They are extremely accurate out of the box and I thought the premium paid for accuracy and reliability was worth it. Also at the time, I was thinking if I am only going to have one pistol I want it to be a decent one. Of course one led to another and we all know how that goes.

My favorite pistol by far is a HK P7M13. Have shot it exclusively in defense type matches for the past couple years. Calling it my favorite is not a function of price, but rather function. It is supremely fast into action, fast for reloads, accurate, and reliable. It receives no special treatment, is well worn and is the best tool I have found for defense. That's not to say I haven't been soundly trounced by people shooting a wide range of guns. I know there are pistols out there that will perform 85% as well for half the price, but I want the best tool for me.

I've always been the type who wants a few great things instead of many average ones.
 
Panzerschreck wrote:

I've always been the type who wants a few great things instead of many average ones.

I agree with Panzerschreck, "quality, not quantity". With that being said, HKs & SIGs are at the top of the food chain. They offer consistant reliability and also have a degree of investment return on the back end. The H&K P7 is the most accurate and reliable compact 9mm I've shot.

However, Glocks, Smiths. Walthers and others have their place in the heirarchy of gun ownership. There is something for everyone, from LEO to the thugs on the street to simple home defense ... there is the right tool for the job out there.

I do want to comment on the CZ75. Shot one to see how they stacked up. For the money, I was impressed. Cost effective, reliable, time & field tested, great trigger pull and the controls are relatively idiot proof. I would recommend one for a person looking for a home defense semi-auto and is price conscience. The other alternative is a revolver, and despite their deal with the Feds, Smith still makes the best revolver.
 
HK's (my choice) and Sigs are very much worth the $.
German engineering at its finest..(continuation of the Mauser linage IMO).

They are as reliable as a good S&W revolver and are more user friendly.

don't knock a fine home cooked meal if you have been eating fast food all your life.

I do think that the STI/SVI 1911's are worth the $.

HK is my favorite...
 
No comment on HK (I don't have experience with them...they are not common in the shooting ranges I go to, which is why I never have bought--or shot-- an HK).

As far as Sig Sauer goes, they are definitely overpriced and not worth the money they ask for. I am saying this even though I own two Sigs and think highly of them. What converted me away from Sig was giving CZ's a try. My CZ 97B shoots more accurately than ANY Sig Sauer I have shot (except for the exceptional Sig P210 which of course is different than the Sig Sauers), and as a bonus the CZ is a lot less money than say a Sig Sauer P220. The CZ 75 in 9mm is IMO as accurate as the Sig 226 in 9mm, I actually shoot the CZ a little better. Both brands have top notch ergonomics IMO. Sig Sauer has a slight edge in reliability IMO, but the slight reliability edge is definitely not worth $200-300 dollars more than a CZ. On top of this, the CZ has features that appeal to me like the ability to go "cocked and locked", and a nice heavy all steel frame (which I prefer). I will never sell my Sigs (I still feel they are top notch production pistols), but I will never buy another new Sig again when I can get a new CZ (which I actually like better than Sigs) for at least $200 less!
 
No pistol is worth it to you, I would guess. Why don't you stop wasting bandwidth with your inane questions and go buy an airsoft gun? I mean, $#it, you already said you shoot Sigs the best so you should already know if they're worth it or not to you. How old are you anyway?:confused:
 
No offense, but the Glocks are over-rated and over-priced based on my experiences with them. I've really tried to like them, honest, but they really don't work for me. I actually like their trigger and they fit my hand well, but I've never found one that was 100% dependable out of the box (22, 23, 19, 26). My 2 USPs (40c and 45f) have been perfectly flawless from day one. No problems whatsoever. I'll take the (not much) more expensive and reliable (in my experience) USP over a Glock any day of the week.

Brian,

I fail to see why a Timex is better than a Rolex based on your statements that a Timex will never fail. A quartz movement is always more accurate than a perpetual, but batteries do tend to fail! The Rolex will be much more accurate than the Timex at this point. Please elaborate! :)

Chris
 
The new ones don't have batteries. They are "kenetic", the movement of your wrist charges a capacitor that runs the quartz movement. Aint technology great?
 
Brian and CPR,

I really like the timex, rolex analogy. When my dad gave his Rolex to my younger brother for a graduation gift, several of us older brothers were kind of bummed out. Had it been a timex, who cares, but it was a real 50's rolex!

Some day when I give my daughter one of my p7's, I hope she feels the same way my brother does. He got something special of dad's and not a Wally-world special!

That is the difference between a glock/eaa and a SIG/H&K.
 
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