Do you Carry Loaded?

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guns have been so revolutionized they just dont go off by themselves nowadays. the trigger has to be pressed (unless you have a remington 700 :D)! so if you have your gun in a holster i dont think your gun has a chance of firing so why not carry with 1 in the pipe?
 
I follow Mossad training protocols, which is carrying un-chambered.

If you're tactically aware, you have enough time to chamber a round. If you're not tactically aware, you shouldn't be carrying and you deserve to die. That may sound harsh, but the real world is harsh.

If you're entering a perceived danger zone, you chamber a round and keep the pistol in hand.

Of course you can avoid the drama and carry a revolver.

BTW, the firing of an auto loader tilted on the side originates from Mossad's un-chambered policy. They don't fire this way, but tilt the pistol for that extra nano-second of speed when pulling the slide back to chamber a round.
 
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Klaatu Barada Nikto or Necktie, mumble mumble.
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First off... lol.

Secondly... Why would you not carry with one in the chamber? That's just asking for getting killed when you need your gun the most. IMO

Thirdly... Ash carried with one in the chamber with his Boomstick in Army of Darkness.:D
 
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carrying a gun without out one in the pipe is pointless IMO, i understand why the military usually does it inside the wire, or non deployed locations, but down range i always had/have one ready to go. as for personal carry i usually carry a 1911 cocked and locked, or a revolver.
 
Well, as mentioned above, Mossad and Shin-bet, (Israel's external and internal security arm, like FBI and CIA, and some of the finest operators in the world), carry with the chamber empty. Of course they spend hours a day training, which any one carrying regularly in a danger zone ought to do, and have developed a sixth sense of impending threat. They instinctively know when it's time to chamber a round.
 
Well, as mentioned above, Mossad and Shin-bet, (Israel's external and internal security arm, like FBI and CIA, and some of the finest operators in the world), carry with the chamber empty.
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My niece teaches Krav Maga, doesn't mean she carry's her Kahr Israeli style though.

Just saying.

Locked and Cocked for me.
 
Well, as mentioned above, Mossad and Shin-bet, (Israel's external and internal security arm, like FBI and CIA, and some of the finest operators in the world), carry with the chamber empty. Of course they spend hours a day training, which any one carrying regularly in a danger zone ought to do, and have developed a sixth sense of impending threat. They instinctively know when it's time to chamber a round.
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Uh, no offense but I don't think that these soldiers have developed psychic abilities during their training. They carry that way because they were told to by their superiors. I'm sure the military does this for some safety/political reasons.
Instinct has nothing to do with it either, logic does.

I would rather be able to draw and shoot rather than draw, chamber and then shoot. What if you only have one hand free or are unable to rack the slide due to an injury? It just unnecessarily complicates things IMO.

I just don't get the logic behind not having a round chambered.:confused:
 
Loaded if not you have a verry expensive ROCK. I know the first time I pull the triger it will go BANG NOT CLICK . CLICK IS NOT GOOD.
 
I have this issue too at work. There are like 5 of us in my group who have our ccw. I think I am likely 1 of 2 or 3 who carry regularly. Still, I get the weirdest reaction when I say my smaller easy carry gun I'd a Kahr 40 and I carry one in the pipe. These guys must have been trained by someone defending themself from groundhogs!

On the other side, all of these guys own or are buying 380's to carry chamber empty. I've said my piece to them and now I just watch and wonder. I keep trying to encourage one of them that 9mm is kind of a minimum and he needs to learn to carry loaded safely.
 
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If you grow up in a country that is under constant threat of homicide bombings, rocket attacks, random shootings, etc. you really do begin to develop this sense. Your tactical awareness is ALWAYS on high. It's "see something, say something" on steroids.

Having worked in hot spots like Laos, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Oman, I can attest to this sense. The fact that I am here responding show that it probably works.

Most people here have grown up in this insulated America where other than the occasional maniacal shooting spree, there is not much danger of a confrontation, (outside of inner city areas). In most places outside of N. America and western Europe, this not the case. In most of the world, there is the real danger of an armed confrontation. I bet that the residents of places like Tijuana have a good idea of when it's safe to be out and about, and when it's time to take cover before the shootings starts.

Talk to anyone who has had these experiences and they will probably agree.
 
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If you grow up in a country that is under constant threat of homicide bombings, rocket attacks, random shootings, etc. you really do begin to develop this sense. Your tactical awareness is ALWAYS on high. It's "see something, say something" on steroids.

Having worked in hot spots like Laos, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Oman, I can attest to this sense. The fact that I am here responding show that it probably works.

Most people here have grown up in this insulated America where other than the occasional maniacal shooting spree, there is not much danger of a confrontation, (outside of inner city areas). In most places outside of N. America and western Europe, this not the case. In most of the world, there is the real danger of an armed confrontation. I bet that the residents of places like Tijuana have a good idea of when it's safe to be out and about, and when it's time to take cover before the shootings starts.

Talk to anyone who has had these experiences and they will probably agree.
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Ok, I understand what you are saying. Kind of a gut feeling in the air kind of thing. Had I listened to my gut instinct the last time I was robbed at gunpoint I never would have got robbed, I would have just gone home.

Then again if it had not happened, I never would have got my CCW permit and never joined this forum and got in to the gun culture. Everything happens for a reason I suppose.
 
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People can carry what ever way they want. I have my own view on what way i would carry. But would people when this subject is brought up stop posting that if you haven't got a round in the chamber then their is no point in carrying or you might as well be carrying a brick ect. This is obvious BS and all they are proving is they don't have a clue what they are talking about. you can make the usual arguments that its quicker to bring into action what if your other arm is out of action ect. But are some on this forum really saying if someone was shooting at them they they wouldn't want access to a firearm if their wasn't a round in the chamber.
 
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