Do you carry every time you go out?

Copenhagen: The whole state is corrupt. I seriously doubt you will get anywhere, but at least you know you wrote them and tried. I really have to give props to Ohio. I wrote a letter to our attorney general, and he responded quickly, and you could tell it wasn't a "one-size-fits-all" letter. What REALLY blew me away, after several letters, he actually CALLED ME! I actually got a call one day, and he was like "Hello, how are you, this as Jim Petro. I have been reading your letters and understand you have some questions? How can I help?"

Those may not have been the exact words, but that was the gist of it. I was literally blown away. What a kick ass AG. :eek::D
 
RantingRedNeck wrote:

I rarely go to places on the "do not carry" list and when I do I tend to park elsewhere and leave my gun in my vehicle.
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You know, I used to do that too, then I started wondering that one, what would happen if in trouble between store and truck? What then?

(Like the lady in the Kroger's where my wife works. It was close to xmas, and these punks waited in the parking lot for the right person, and one would innocently distract the person, while another punk would run or drive up and literally rip the purses off of usually older ladies. One lady got caught in her purse strap, and was dragged across the parking lot for nearly 100 feet. SHE WAS 70ish!!!!! The bastards were never caught, and it didn't even make the news! :mad::mad:)

Also, I always worry, what if I leave my gun in my truck/car, and someone steals my vehicle? I have inadvertently suplied a criminal with MY GUN! I just can't bring myself to leave a firearm in a vehicle anymore.
 
Rogueone: I understand some of your reasoning as a Christian. But for me personally, I look at it like this, God often told people to take up arms and do this or that in the bible, and I seem to remember something about preserving your own life, unless losing your life would somehow glorify him. I'm not real sure on that, but I will look it up. (And a sword isn't really that far off than a gun, its just what they had available at the time)
 
Derius T:

I agree with all of your comments.

My perspective is the one time I'll need some form of protection, I won't have it.

I recently was doing a kids basketball game, 3-4th graders, and, I was calling a game by myself. I called about 10 fouls on each team, in the first half. A very strong, thick, over 220 pounds, blackman came up to me, one of the coaches for one of the teams, and in a very aggressive manner said I was trying to control the game, and, veiled the threat of physical violence behind very hostile words. I listened, then said,
"We'll start the second half with a technical foul on blue's coach."
And walked over to find the supervisor. The guy followed me, started screaming, and, slammed the ball off my toe.
I told the supervisor to pay me, and, I'm going home. We switched games, and, the guy took off. The irony was a guy famous for carrying a .38 while refing, came into do the next game. He walked me out to the parking lot, but, we had no incident. The ONE time I needed my pepper spray container, I'd decided not to carry it, since I was wearing light shorts, and, it bounced around too much. I'll never make that mistake again...

I've yet to figure out how to run up and down a basketball court with a firearm...
 
You know, I used to do that too, then I started wondering that one, what would happen if in trouble between store and truck? What then?

(Like the lady in the Kroger's where my wife works. It was close to xmas, and these punks waited in the parking lot for the right person, and one would innocently distract the person, while another punk would run or drive up and literally rip the purses off of usually older ladies. One lady got caught in her purse strap, and was dragged across the parking lot for nearly 100 feet. SHE WAS 70ish!!!!! The bastards were never caught, and it didn't even make the news! )

Also, I always worry, what if I leave my gun in my truck/car, and someone steals my vehicle? I have inadvertently suplied a criminal with MY GUN! I just can't bring myself to leave a firearm in a vehicle anymore.
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In a perfect world I agree with you. Problem is, this world (and in particular this state's carry laws) are not perfect. I have a choice of either carrying 100% of the time and risking a felony charge, not carrying at all on days I have to go to the "do not carry" places and risk not having my gun at a time I may need it, or risk leaving a weapon locked in my truck, with my truck parked in a non-prohibited place, and have it stolen. Unfortunately I'll go with option 3.
 
But one of the big reasons I do carry is simply the return trip into the house. I have always been very much afraid of interrupting a burglary in progress at my house
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That happened to me when I was 11 years old... my dad was away and my Mom and I came back from dinner... opened the door and saw the intruder go out the back door... fortunate for us as I am pretty sure my Mom wasn't packing back then. :D
 
I carry something all the time, but not necessarily a handgun. A little 2.5" folding knife goes in my pocket everywhere. No one has ever hassled me about it, as they might if I had a handgun. Just a thought.
 
I carry something all the time, but not necessarily a handgun. A little 2.5" folding knife goes in my pocket everywhere. No one has ever hassled me about it, as they might if I had a handgun. Just a thought.
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On the one hand, the survivalist in me agrees you should never be without a knife, even when carrying a handgun, too. Absolutely critical for vehicle extrication, wilderness survival, and even simple household chores. I carry a knife almost always, and can carry one more places than a handgun, but there are still many places I go where even a small knife would cause a hassle; frequent flights, the post office, bars/nightclubs, etc. In some jurisdictions, carrying the smaller knife may be legal, but it could be considered assualt with an illegal deadly weapon if the knife is actually used in an altercation.

So I value knives for their utilitarian handiness, but I think the combat effectiveness per "unit of hassle" is much better for a handgun. Sure, I may be able to kill someone faster with a small blade than with a thumb in the eye socket or crushing their skull under my boot heel; and it's faster to slit someone's jugular than choke them out--but the knife doesn't extend my effectice combat range far enough to deter assorted nastiness....;)
 
Socrates, glad you were able to keep your cool in that instance.

As for carrying while running up and down a court, maybe a well fitting, secure vertical shoulder holster? I don't know, just a thought.

And Rantingredneck, I know what you are saying, but I ignore the little circle with slash no gun signs. (they are often posted improperly and easy to "miss" anyways)

As for the more "official" looking signs, I have asked this question a few times, and wish someone with better knowledge than me, like maybe one of our resident lawyers or Leo's could help out.

The signs in question always have some jargon about, "Unless otherwise allowed by law....yada, yada" or something similar. Well, my question is, does the fact that I have a state issued permit, make me "otherwise allowed by law"? The language on the signs does not lead one to believe it only speaks of leos, as it makes no specific mention. Does anyone have any idea?

It stands to reason that having a state permit makes us "allowed by law", but I realize laws very seldom stand to reason.....
 
As for the more "official" looking signs, I have asked this question a few times, and wish someone with better knowledge than me, like maybe one of our resident lawyers or Leo's could help out.

The signs in question always have some jargon about, "Unless otherwise allowed by law....yada, yada" or something similar. Well, my question is, does the fact that I have a state issued permit, make me "otherwise allowed by law"? The language on the signs does not lead one to believe it only speaks of leos, as it makes no specific mention. Does anyone have any idea?

It stands to reason that having a state permit makes us "allowed by law", but I realize laws very seldom stand to reason.....
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The signs and what force of law stands behind them varies from state to state. In NC, if there's a sign, it carries the full weight of law behind it. There are also prohibited places that don't have to have signage to be prohibited (banks, PO's, Govt buildings, etc.) Not sure about where you are.
 
Yeah, I am familiar with the areas that are off limits no matter what, but was just wondering about the signs. Does the wording include us, or exclude us? I will have to call the AG's office I guess, as most of the local police are even less sure of the carry laws than your average citizen.
 
No. Where I live, sadly there is no such thing as a CCW where I live. I use legal self defence items to defend myself instead of guns. If there was a CCW available I would get one, and carry a weapon everywhere I went other than places where it would not be practical or safe to use/carry a firearm. For example at a job interview I would not carry a gun, but in a shopping mall I would.

I would want a firearm to defend myself and others because of the high rate of preventable deaths and injuries that occur in Europe and the United States.
 
In the USA would you ever be allowed to take a gun into a college even as a self defence weapon?
I mean looking at the statistics of spree murderers, where your gun could mean life or death for tens of lives, the most likely place thats going to occur is your college or other educational building.
But in 2007 there were about 3 shooting incidents in a mall, and thats the most likely place that I would have to use it.
 
Most colleges, in states where it's not prohibited by law, forbid their students and staff from carrying via contractual restrictions - you agree as a condition of enrollment or employment that if you carry, you are subject to expulsion or termination.

Here in New Hampshire, people who are not affiliated with the college or university, and not subject to the contractual disarmament, are not prohibited from carrying on campus due to RSA 154:26, the statewide preemption law.
 
I would hope with the recent string of college and mall shootings that someone pulls their head out of their hind quarters and starts looking at carry laws as they pertain to those places.
 
Just the reverse. Now, at sporting events at our local high school, and colleges, they metal detect with wands, for weapons. This ensures that between your car, and the event, you have no weapons for defense, coming or going.
 
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