do you carry chambered?
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I carry a Glock with a round chambered. Holster fully covers the trigger. I hate cliches, but the best safety is the one between your ears. Keep your finger off the trigger, and the gun won't go off.
Look in your area for Defensive Handgun classes. They're worth the money, and will help you in your confidence of carrying a loaded and chambered weapon.
Look in your area for Defensive Handgun classes. They're worth the money, and will help you in your confidence of carrying a loaded and chambered weapon.
SPEMack618
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When I first started to CC, I was skiddish as well about carrying with a round in the chamber of my Glock.
And this was even after a deployment, in which I often carried a weapon with a round in the chamber and safety on, often times two.
However, being a slave to the Big Green mentality, I was wary of carrying my Glock chambered with a round in the chamber due to the lack of a manual safety. Also, the times I carried a weapon when not outside the wire, we were mandated to have it in condition three. Full mag, bolt foward on an empty chamber, safety on.
It just takes a little time and some confidence in your equipment. In that regards, I was lucky in that I recieved a very nice IWB holster as a groomsman's gift that fit all the criteria listed above by Frank.
I would add, that when seconds count, I don't want to lose a couple racking the slide.
And this was even after a deployment, in which I often carried a weapon with a round in the chamber and safety on, often times two.
However, being a slave to the Big Green mentality, I was wary of carrying my Glock chambered with a round in the chamber due to the lack of a manual safety. Also, the times I carried a weapon when not outside the wire, we were mandated to have it in condition three. Full mag, bolt foward on an empty chamber, safety on.
It just takes a little time and some confidence in your equipment. In that regards, I was lucky in that I recieved a very nice IWB holster as a groomsman's gift that fit all the criteria listed above by Frank.
I would add, that when seconds count, I don't want to lose a couple racking the slide.
My EDC is a Glock which I carry chambered in a good leather holster.
Of the pistols I own, I would consider it a failure or a defect if racking the slide in the normal manner did not load a round, but I have not owned any Kahr pistols. Is this normal for Kahrs, or is the OP being jerked around by the seller? If this is normal, doesn't it pretty much preclude leaving it unloaded or un-chambered for any self defense situation? (Not that I am advocating that, but there are a significant number of folks in the world who haven't learned that it is safe to keep a round chambered. This procedure, if normal, seems extraordinarily cumbersome.)
Of the pistols I own, I would consider it a failure or a defect if racking the slide in the normal manner did not load a round, but I have not owned any Kahr pistols. Is this normal for Kahrs, or is the OP being jerked around by the seller? If this is normal, doesn't it pretty much preclude leaving it unloaded or un-chambered for any self defense situation? (Not that I am advocating that, but there are a significant number of folks in the world who haven't learned that it is safe to keep a round chambered. This procedure, if normal, seems extraordinarily cumbersome.)
*sigh*
Although I agree you should carry with one in the chamber, I hate this attitude. An unchambered gun is better than no gun at all. There are situations where it might be impossible to deploy an unchambered gun, but there are also situations where you do have the time.
I will always advocate learning to carry Condition 1, but if someone has limited their choices to carrying Condition 3 or not carrying at all, I'll always go with Condition 3.
It would seem that the OP either did not get a manual with the gun purchase, or did not bother to take the time to read it thoroughly.
Kahr recommends dropping the slide using the slide catch to chamber a round. They recommend this because, especially when new, the recoil spring(s) are very stiff and there also is not a lot of slide travel distance- both of these things combine to sometimes cause feeding problems when using the slingshot method because the slide may not be brought fully back before being let go by the operator.
When the guns break in, the slingshot method becomes easier and less problematic. But I still more often than not use the manufacturer's recommended method; lock the slide back, drop the slide and chamber a round, drop the mag to top off, re-insert mag. Not a problem.
BigD_in_FL
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Sounds like he also needs to join the Kahr forum where all the little intricacies (like cleaning the mags and checking spring direction) are contained.
The owner's manual specifically states to use the slide stop to release it after inserting a fresh magazine and they do NOT recommend using the sling shot approach
johnwilliamson062
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You don't NEED to use the slide stop, but doing so is an idiot proof way of dropping the slide. You CAN NOT "ride the slide" as you chamber it. You have to pull it all the way back and then release it cleanly without any forward movement.
As stated above, this problem diminishes over time.
The only time I do not chamber a round is if I am OCing in a demonstration and I am worried about someone trying to grab my gun. Surrounded by other people OCing rifles I don't feel much need to have my pistol immediately functional.
As stated above, this problem diminishes over time.
The only time I do not chamber a round is if I am OCing in a demonstration and I am worried about someone trying to grab my gun. Surrounded by other people OCing rifles I don't feel much need to have my pistol immediately functional.
A belt is not necessarily a gunbelt, though a gunbelt is a belt.
A leather belt is not necessarily and gunbelt, though gunbelt could be leather.
An American made belt is not necessarily a gunbelt, though a gunbelt could be American made.
A gunbelt should be wide enough that it fits snugly through the loops or clips of your holster. This keeps the holster in place and in position. 1.75" seems to be the standard.
A gunbelt should be stiff so that it can carry and support the weight of the gun without twisting or collapsing. If you can fold a 1.75"-2" wide belt across its width, it is not stiff enough. (I actually saw a $12 Faded Glory belt today at WalMart that almost passed this test but it was only 1.5" wide.
) Color is your choice, but if it is the same color as the holster or holster clips, the holster will be less likely to attract attention than a higher contrast combination.
shootniron
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Please share with the forum, how we develop our situational awareness to know which situation we will encounter...so that we can be prepared.
First I do not trust mechanical safeties. I have encountered to many weapons were the safety did not work.
Second all of my pistols have exposed hammers.
Third all of my regular carry holsters are leather and have thumb breaks. The strap lays between the hammer and firing pen. In case of the hammer falls for some reason the hammer strikes the leather and not the firing pin.
Note: When I carry a revolver I carry with an empty chamber under the hammer. When I carry cap and ball I rest the hammer between the nipples and load all six chambers.
One of my pistols has a hammer drop safety. I carry this pistol with the safety off. The others I carry with the safety on.
Second all of my pistols have exposed hammers.
Third all of my regular carry holsters are leather and have thumb breaks. The strap lays between the hammer and firing pen. In case of the hammer falls for some reason the hammer strikes the leather and not the firing pin.
Note: When I carry a revolver I carry with an empty chamber under the hammer. When I carry cap and ball I rest the hammer between the nipples and load all six chambers.
One of my pistols has a hammer drop safety. I carry this pistol with the safety off. The others I carry with the safety on.
BigD_in_FL
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Except for some older SA revolvers, the rest have a transfer bar that can't hit the primer if you drop it on the hammer, so an empty chamber is unnecessary
shootniron
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ltc444 said he did not trust mechanical things...transfer bar is mechanical.
shootniron
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You tell me...makes no sense to me, either.
dakota1820
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I mentioned above that I knew tne right way to load and chambe the kahr. Although I didnt initially. The gun is simply drfective. Also the holster is a belt holster its made of nylon polyester stuff does does seem pretty sturdy . Its made by blackhawk . My beltmmay only be 1.5 not sure but ill check.
thedudeabides
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1911 condition 1.
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