CharlieDeltaJuliet
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I had a Taurus PT101 and loved it. I only parted ways with it, because my uncle wanted it. I ended up giving it to him, wow, I miss that pistol...lol
Do you bash Taurus? And for why?
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No problem. Like I said, after being flamed by taurus fans for too long I quit giving my opinion in these kinds of threads, but it seemed you werent looking to have someone tell you WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR, you sincerely wanted to hear our experiences. See below for another that I didnt relate, since it wasnt MY gun.
A friend of mine had a PT92 that shot patterns like a shotgun. He brought it to me to check out(im "the gun guy" in my group of friends). When I examined it I noted that when fully locked, slide forward, the barrel would wobble up and down. A lot. I mean, a whole lot. You could literally wobble this thing in circles around while it was "in lock up." Never saw anything like that before, had to recomend to him that he send it back. It came back from taurus "in spec" just as loose as it went to them, only now it had a couple scratches on its finish too. He sent it back again and they sent him a new gun. He called them to ask how it was "in spec" one week and "not repairable" the next, they didnt have an answer.
I would guess its not too small. It seems to me that they take the approach of "lets crank out the guns that sell, even if we know that they arent good, then we will fix them after they sell and we have a customers money." I would guess (and thats what it is, so dont ask me for numbers or to back it up) that they have at least 5 times the return rate of any other gun manufacturer, and probably 10 times. Thats my experience from hanging out in gunshops owned by two friends, owning a few of thier guns, and helping buddies who bought thier lemons.
I’ve been reading a lot about Taurus lately as I’m just about to buy a brand new PT 1911. Just have to ignore the bashers who say Taurus is junk, or crap or what ever and leave it at that. There is a 1911 forum that has a bunch of sub forums dedicated to the different manufactures, and Taurus is one of them. You don’t see much Taurus bashing in that forum. It sounds like most of the issues, at least with the PT 1911, have been resolved, and the guns are now a solid investment. Still, Taurus will remain a gun people love to bash for some time to come anyway. That’s just the nature of todays forums and social networking.
youngunz4life
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wingspar, you are making a mistake in my opinion
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I guess myself and my dad are two of the lucky Taurus owners, I own a 454 Casull Raging Bull and my dad owns a Judge. I reload for both of them, I keep the 45 Colt loads middle of the road for the Judge. As for my Bull, I've shot light loads 240grs. all the way up to 405grs. and it handles them all.
I'm no fanboy, if you don't like Taurus that's fine its your money to do whatever you want. Me, I would buy another Taurus without worrying about it based on the two that are in the family.
I'm no fanboy, if you don't like Taurus that's fine its your money to do whatever you want. Me, I would buy another Taurus without worrying about it based on the two that are in the family.
youngunz4life said:
Everyone has an opinion.
I’m doing lots of research and it will just be a range gun. I’m remote with a 3 ½ hour one way drive to where I can even look at anything else, and the LGS has a new PT 1911 in stock. Taurus is a gun people love to hate. You mostly only hear about the bad ones, and not the majority of Taurus owners who have no problems.
It could definitely be differing circumstances. We have a range on site, so we get a really good look at relative failure rates. That can be a real eye-opener, and the data we gather from that dictates what we sell to the public.
I know a guy who runs a pawn shop and sells tons of the Bryco and Jennings pistols. He doesn't hear many complaints, but he doesn't have a clientele of active shooters like we do, so his mileage varies.
I didn't vote. I can't be 100% sure, though I'm 99% it was a Taurus revolver I was shooting when the barrel folowed a bullet downrange. Too many years have passed.
That said, I loved my PT22. 1" groups at 15 years, and smooth as silk. Got stolen and never recovered in a vehicle breakin.
I recently bought a TCP. Nice and smooth and will be smoother when I work on it some. I love it too, but wife decided she didn't and commendeered my G26 as hers, so now I guess I dislike them since I really loved the G26.
That said, I loved my PT22. 1" groups at 15 years, and smooth as silk. Got stolen and never recovered in a vehicle breakin.
I recently bought a TCP. Nice and smooth and will be smoother when I work on it some. I love it too, but wife decided she didn't and commendeered my G26 as hers, so now I guess I dislike them since I really loved the G26.
youngunz4life
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Wingspar, I have to agree w/your post. Well said. What I like about this thread is the 'experience' factor though...many taurus threads don't mention that. I do Not love to hate taurus. In fact i didn't listen because the collector in me likes to try different brands(like own a ruger, S&W, taurus, etc). I do not own two firearms from the same manufacturer. Multpile things that happened to me were confirmed by other members as happening to them too. I was actually pretty shocked when this stuff was happening. It isn't a good feeling. I have learned a lot from this thread.
all the best
Read about way too many problems to ever buy one new, I'm simply not going to take the chance.
Now having said that...if I had a friend with one I liked for sale and knew it was good to go and had a little range time with it beforehand I'd buy it. I'm not a basher, but I'm not about to ignore the experiences many people have had either. No manufacturer is ever going to 100% on quality control, but I'd buy a S&W and Ruger on faith and the Taurus I'd have to try out first.
Now having said that...if I had a friend with one I liked for sale and knew it was good to go and had a little range time with it beforehand I'd buy it. I'm not a basher, but I'm not about to ignore the experiences many people have had either. No manufacturer is ever going to 100% on quality control, but I'd buy a S&W and Ruger on faith and the Taurus I'd have to try out first.
I think the poll is too broad and should be focused on specific models.
I had a PT92 FS for a short time. A great shooting pistol that never jammed. I put about 500 rounds through it in a couple of months. Love that 5" barrel.
I only paid $435 including tax. In my opinion it is the best value for a full sized 9mm. I liked shooting it, but I traded it away because it was too much work to get to the firing pin and extractor. But that's because it's a Beretta design.
I had a PT92 FS for a short time. A great shooting pistol that never jammed. I put about 500 rounds through it in a couple of months. Love that 5" barrel.
I only paid $435 including tax. In my opinion it is the best value for a full sized 9mm. I liked shooting it, but I traded it away because it was too much work to get to the firing pin and extractor. But that's because it's a Beretta design.
Kreyzhorse
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Most modern guns are not considered good investments yet some makers produce guns that retain more of their original value than others. Taurus is not one of them.
Chuckusaret
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Only have one, Raging Bull .454 and never had a problem with it other than felt recoil.
rickyjames
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i have bought 3 taurus revolvers and 5 semi autos and have never had a single problem with any of these handguns. they are as reliable as any other brand name i own and as accurate too. all my taurus guns were bought new in box and i still have all i bought.
Redhawk5.5+P+
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OP
I seen and heard enough from people working at the range and reading first and second hand expedience's on the net. I'm sure some my have been BS, but not enough to change may mind about Taurus.
TBS, my first revolve was a Taurus, a model 608 large frame 8 shot .357 5" barrel.
It performs very impressively, I'd put around 3000 mostly hot factory .357 rounds with some .38s in the mix. Never ever a flaw. I had a lot of people shoot it, all, all were rather impressed, I sold it to my brothers with faith
All TBS, I never heard of a 608 Taurus problem yet, but that's not a high selling gun. Maybe that's good, there not trying to pump out 10,000 of them a day maybe like a 605 or 85.
I seen and heard enough from people working at the range and reading first and second hand expedience's on the net. I'm sure some my have been BS, but not enough to change may mind about Taurus.
TBS, my first revolve was a Taurus, a model 608 large frame 8 shot .357 5" barrel.
It performs very impressively, I'd put around 3000 mostly hot factory .357 rounds with some .38s in the mix. Never ever a flaw. I had a lot of people shoot it, all, all were rather impressed, I sold it to my brothers with faith
All TBS, I never heard of a 608 Taurus problem yet, but that's not a high selling gun. Maybe that's good, there not trying to pump out 10,000 of them a day maybe like a 605 or 85.
With regard to the air at Tom Servo's location...
1) I've seen some of the problem Tauri he was talking about. He has shown me a few of them, while we were discussing threads like this.
2) I used to live near his LGS, and I've put in a lot of hours at the range he mentioned. I don't remember ever having that range to myself. They have a high volume of shooters; they have an extensive rental shelf, and they rent a lot of guns.
3) I've had a lot of friends who were Taurus owners. They were Taurus owners primarily because they did not have much of a shooting budget; not only did they want an inexpensive gun, but like Tom speculated, they did not shoot much. I would guess I shoot more in a month than most of them shoot in a year (or two, or three). What they consider a high round count is very different from what I would consider a high round count (but a normal shooting session for me is typically 150-200 rounds per gun I decide to shoot).
Of those friends of mine who have owned Taurus, a good percentage have had problems. Between them, and the bad NIB guns that Tom has shown me, I don't plan on gaining first-hand knowledge of the brand.
I also wouldn't buy an '80s vintage FIAT Spyder, though I haven't owned one. I try to learn from the experiences of others, and don't feel any compulsion to prove that things are problem children.
Some people like to find out for themselves, I guess.
1) I've seen some of the problem Tauri he was talking about. He has shown me a few of them, while we were discussing threads like this.
2) I used to live near his LGS, and I've put in a lot of hours at the range he mentioned. I don't remember ever having that range to myself. They have a high volume of shooters; they have an extensive rental shelf, and they rent a lot of guns.
3) I've had a lot of friends who were Taurus owners. They were Taurus owners primarily because they did not have much of a shooting budget; not only did they want an inexpensive gun, but like Tom speculated, they did not shoot much. I would guess I shoot more in a month than most of them shoot in a year (or two, or three). What they consider a high round count is very different from what I would consider a high round count (but a normal shooting session for me is typically 150-200 rounds per gun I decide to shoot).
Of those friends of mine who have owned Taurus, a good percentage have had problems. Between them, and the bad NIB guns that Tom has shown me, I don't plan on gaining first-hand knowledge of the brand.
I also wouldn't buy an '80s vintage FIAT Spyder, though I haven't owned one. I try to learn from the experiences of others, and don't feel any compulsion to prove that things are problem children.
Some people like to find out for themselves, I guess.