Do Dinosaurs still roam the earth?
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Just to follow up for Bongoboy. There was an all hard chromed LAR Grizzly pistol on gunbroker that just sold for 1850 and change. That seems about right This one was in 357 mag with the shorter 5.4" barrel.
I completely missed that one...not sure how. I wouldn't have been interested in owning it in that caliber, but I like to keep track of what comes and goes with a few selected guns and this is one of them.
A rare gunbroker auction indeed that includes more than two crappy photos!
A rare gunbroker auction indeed that includes more than two crappy photos!
t4terrific
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Took the Grizzly to the range yesterday, not to do anything serious, but it show it off to a friend of a friend. New friend has an AMT Auto Mag IV .45 Win mag. Sadly, his .45WinMag is now a single shot.
He got a box of ammo (50rnd) from the Old Western Scrounger. This stuff is a very broad flat point JSP 250gr bullet, put up in Starline brass.
When he went to shoot it, the first round did a nosedive, smacked the magazine, which split. He is currently looking for a replacement magazine, so far, without finding one.
I handled the Auto Mag IV, it was interesting, and noticeably lighter than my Grizzly.
He gave me the (full) box of ammo, said if I had any use for it, I could have it. He pointed out the round that "broke" his gun. You could see in the lead where it had hung up on something, and it was just barely shorter than the other rounds. (slight setback).
It, and the rest of a magazine fed and fired in my Grizzly. That stuff is stout!
He shot a mag full through my Grizzly, and agreed! He also said the recoil was more than his Auto Mag IV. Personally, I think it was the ammo. Any way, I now have a full box of 50 (minus 12 fired) of this stuff, think I will reserve it for future testing.
Further updates when I have them.
He got a box of ammo (50rnd) from the Old Western Scrounger. This stuff is a very broad flat point JSP 250gr bullet, put up in Starline brass.
When he went to shoot it, the first round did a nosedive, smacked the magazine, which split. He is currently looking for a replacement magazine, so far, without finding one.
I handled the Auto Mag IV, it was interesting, and noticeably lighter than my Grizzly.
He gave me the (full) box of ammo, said if I had any use for it, I could have it. He pointed out the round that "broke" his gun. You could see in the lead where it had hung up on something, and it was just barely shorter than the other rounds. (slight setback).
It, and the rest of a magazine fed and fired in my Grizzly. That stuff is stout!
He shot a mag full through my Grizzly, and agreed! He also said the recoil was more than his Auto Mag IV. Personally, I think it was the ammo. Any way, I now have a full box of 50 (minus 12 fired) of this stuff, think I will reserve it for future testing.
Further updates when I have them.
I can't help but daydream about going to the local IDPA match (outlaw division of course) with it. Score would stink, but the plate rack would be spectacular.
Not sure I could actually lift my arm high enough to get it out of a regulation holster, though, even with a standard barrel bushing.
Not sure I could actually lift my arm high enough to get it out of a regulation holster, though, even with a standard barrel bushing.
Stevie-Ray
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Ooh, ooh, any ideas or reports on quality? That was one I always wanted, and still do, especially if the quality is better than AMT's.
I went back through the thread, and based on what criteria I put up back then, the .460 Rowland isn't a "good fit". Close in some ways but not quite there. I was looking for guns that deliver "full" magnum performance for their bore size, and allow those rounds or guns with "Magnum" in the name.
So, I accept .22WMR (magnum in the round's name) and I also accept Automag III (.30 Carbine, but "magnum" in the gun name).
I don't mind if you want to talk about the .460 Rowland, and compare it to the magnum semis that are the main topic of the thread. As I see it, the Rowland works in properly converted 1911 guns, which is a plus for many things and many people, but falls just a little short of delivering what I consider "full magnum" velocities.
Still, worth while for discussion, and happy to have activity in their old thread.
silvermane_1
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I wish MRI would make a 480 Ruger chambered Desert Eagle.
I suppose in the sense that it is extinct, yes, but more like an evolutionary dead end, during the time of the dinosaurs, than one of the dinosaurs themselves.
It was a very cool idea, and might be something worth bringing back, if we ever get into armed combat in space/zero G. Just wasn't good enough here on earth.
I understand accuracy wasn't on a par with cartridge firearms, and due to it being a rocket, was actually more powerful further away than at close range (as the velocity went up).
and, of course, the only way "realoading" applied was putting more rounds in the gun...so, an idea ahead of its time, and ahead of the tech to make it viable.
In that regard, its the same as the dinosaurs I'm talking about, guns ahead of their time, which have since largely gone extinct.
Another long, long extinct one was the MARS pistol, of which not a lot of info is available. Large semi auto, one version reported to fire a .45 bullet at 1200fps. It might be considered the first of the dinosaurs in that respect, though it lived (in small numbers) and died out a couple of "epochs" before the dinosaurs were born.
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It was a very cool idea, and might be something worth bringing back, if we ever get into armed combat in space/zero G. Just wasn't good enough here on earth.
I understand accuracy wasn't on a par with cartridge firearms, and due to it being a rocket, was actually more powerful further away than at close range (as the velocity went up).
and, of course, the only way "realoading" applied was putting more rounds in the gun...so, an idea ahead of its time, and ahead of the tech to make it viable.
In that regard, its the same as the dinosaurs I'm talking about, guns ahead of their time, which have since largely gone extinct.
Another long, long extinct one was the MARS pistol, of which not a lot of info is available. Large semi auto, one version reported to fire a .45 bullet at 1200fps. It might be considered the first of the dinosaurs in that respect, though it lived (in small numbers) and died out a couple of "epochs" before the dinosaurs were born.
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