Disliking Glocks 2

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Originally posted by JMack...I have a G27 that has got to be the best carry peice on the market IMHO, try finding that fire power in a gun that size, you would be hard pressed.

I agree with JMack! G27's stopping power is second to none. I have a friend who is an FBI agent who said most agents in his office carry a G27. They simply gave up Bureau's issued handguns and went for the Glock instead. He said whenever he target practices, his G27 .40 caliber would consistently knock down big metal targets every time. Other bigger Bureau's 9mm models just couldn't match its firing power.
I myself have been looking for an even more compact model than the G27 with .40 caliber but just couldn't find one.

[This message has been edited by jyn (edited September 21, 2000).]
 
Well, I guess the agents wanted a more concealable G27 for the same firing power?
I had a chance to look at his issued model and it was not a Glock. Although I liked it because of its double action or second strike capability, which I could continuously pull the trigger on empty shoot.
I also liked the light magazine release button. Unlike the Glock, one light push on the button and the magazine just drops down.
 
They used to issue Sigs, but last year they went to Glocks. The Sigs are still there, and agents that were issued Sigs can still keep them if they want.

The FBI handgun trials were very interesting reading, they froze them, dropped them, beat them, buried them, shot the heck out of them. Of the guns tested the only handgun to complete all the tests successfully was the Glock. Go figure.

A more compact .40 would be a Kahr MK40 (single-stack sub compact .40), but it's a little heavier empty since it is steel, and it only has 5+1 capacity.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BB:
A more compact .40 would be a Kahr MK40 (single-stack sub compact .40), but it's a little heavier empty since it is steel, and it only has 5+1 capacity.][/quote]

BB, Kahr MK40 comes in 6+1 capacity thanks to a second mag which is a 6-rounder. But the first one is, indeed, a 5-round mag.
 
Sorry Glock lovers but I just cannot see why
anyone would buy a Glock, A gun should have
soul,the Glock is like rental cars all the same.Looks like a kids squirt gun from the
50's. To me if the barrel was plugged and
a trigger lock installed it would be the
perfect liberal handgun.
 
Bullet,

Once again you have failed to make your point.

Enough on how the Glock looks, how about the way it works? Shoot the gun, does it feel like a squirt gun? Didnt think so.

Comparing guns to rental cars? Please explain that comparison a little further for me when you get the time. I have yet to fire a Bonnevile into the ten ring 8 out of ten shots, its really hard to do that with a car.

A gun should have soul, a gun is made out of raw materials, metals, plastics, springs and screws therefore no gun has soul. If you think a gun has soul than thats for the eye of the beholder, my Glocks have plenty of soul in my eyes.

What a Glock does have is a whole damn lot of Character, and yup I love it!

Liberal handgun? You have got to be kidding man, Glocks are the guns that antis love to hate,,,whats your point?

You didnt know? Glocks can be snuck through security at airports. Try it sometime, the fact that the Glock is made of tupperware and has no metal parts to speak of makes this task rather easy.

When you get a minute try to post something with a valid point so we can carry on this interesting topic, stare away from the off the wall comments (cars/guns guns/soul) that do not make much sence.

:) :) :)
LOL!
Later,
~Jason
 
Well I used to hate glocks, then started liking them, and now don't like them again. The fanaticism about glocks is somewhat annoying, they really are no different from a Ruger, yet you don't hear people talking about Bill Ruger being a god, or of "Ruger Perfection". The thing that disturbs me most about glocks is there poor failure analysis design. The chamber is too big, and the case is unsupported too much. Allows for great reliability, but not for hot ammo. Because of this, reloading for one can be a dangerous endeavor. Sigs, berretas, and H&K's still seem to be completely reliable out of the box, and don't need the over sized chamber. If Glock redesigned their barrels and chambers to be more robust, then I might look at another one again.
 
The fanaticism you speak of comes from the people that hate Glocks with a pasion and launch personal attacks on Glocks and there owners every chance they get, I am not saying thats what happens here but it does happen.

Take a look at this thread for a minute. If people in general were not infatuated with Glocks wether they like them or they hate them do you think you would have a post titled "Disliking Glocks 2" Seriously, think about it.

Besides, what is wrong with people speaking highly of the guns that they love? The reason you feel people are fanatical about Glocks is because more people today own Glocks over any other handgun, therefore Mr. Gaston is indeed doing something right. If they were garbage I hardly think they would have the reputation they have today. Go to some competitions and you will notice the same thing I have noticed over time. People in general are putting down their own trusty rusty and picking up Glocks, the old timers I meet are even carrying them, its not just the young guys anymore.

Peopel just need to realise that there is not much to say bad about Glocks on the grand scale of things. Ya ya ,,,KBKBKBKBKBKB I know.

Look at the two posts here.

1. Who doesnt like Glocks (47 posts)

2. Disliking Glocks 2 (27)

Go read through them and you will see that alot of people that responded had nothing but good things to say, alond with a good share of bad but most of that did not have any ground to stand on, notice how I havent said your firearm stinks, I havent compared it to a rental car or none of that BS, because the actuall gun does the talking for me.

Think about this, for one gun to have two posts dedicated to it with a total of 75 replys thus far, Glock is here to stay so lets all get used to it. Remember the days when gun owners were gun owners not Glock owners and the rest of em? :) :) :)

We are all on the same side right?

~Jason
 
Jason,

BTW, no different than a Ruger? :)

Cant see it man, you might find alot of people that disagree with you on that one. I own a P95DC and let me tell ya, there is a whole lotta difference going on there.

Like I said above I own many different guns from many different makes and I do appreciate the Glock for what it is, I am not a fanatic but I know a good thing when ive got it, and boyyyy do I got it> :)

Later,
~Jason
 
I like Glocks, but don't own one for two reasons. First, the grip feels just a little funky in my hands. Second, can't really afford the model that I want.

To be honest, though, if I could afford to get one, I could get over reason number one in a hurry!
 
Ojib,

What model are you looking for?

In my parts you can get most any model for around $500 give or take a little.

Not to bad of a price concidering what you get in return, like I said there is little price differences between models, look around and I bet you will find it.

Good luck,
~Jason
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jyn:
My Glock is still the smallest subcompact .40 out there. One dealer said there is a brand new .40 model that just came out but I forgot its name.
Is there a better, smaller model with second strike capability or double action out there?
Thanks for any input. (edited September 21, 2000).][/quote]

Jyn,

You're 27's not the smallest out there. The Kahr Mk40 and Kel-Tech P140 (or whatever it's called) are smaller. The Kahr is heavier than the 27 empty, and it holds half the rounds, but when you load 'em, they weigh the same. The Kel-Tech has the same round count, weighs less, and has second strike capability. It's also a lesser quality than Glock, but a lot of guys on TFL say that with proper TLC, they're great guns.
 
Gunny Hathcock's favorite carry pistol, during his later years, was his G21. That's a good enough recommendation for me. (Not that I need a recommendation.) I can afford not to buy a $2500 anachronism, just to show off for my buddies at the range. I prefer Glocks, and that's what I shoot, most of the time. When I feel a little nostalgic, I break out the 70 Series Gold Cup and run a few down the tube.

I'm shooting a G21 with a threaded, compensated .40 Super barrel. Also shoot a lot of .400 Cor-Bon with the same configuration. Really fun to shoot.
 
Hey Walter, didn't know you were here. You shoot 400 corbon and 40 super through the same barrel? Didn't know you could do that...
 
Spiro Agnew could very well have had the Glock-haters in mind when he coined the phrase "...an effete corps of impudent snobs." (Sidebar: It was kinda fun dredging up that old chestnut and verifying the meaning of each word. Fits perfect.)

Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, round for round, you will not find a more accurate, reliable or durable firearm. For those who don't like Glocks I've got three words for you - buy another gun. Hope I'm not outa line. :) :) :D :D ;)

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dogloose

Illegitimati non carborundum:
Don't let the bastards grind you down.
Carborundi non illegitimatum:
Don't let the grind make a bastard out of you.
 
Two selling points that make me like the Ruger P95 more than the Glock: The grip fits me a hell of alot better than the Glock, second strike capability with a traditional hammer struck firing pin. These two points are very important to me for my own personal reasons. The feeling of the grip is self explanatory, I just prefer it over the Glock. In my own opinion I think the neithr is better than the other. So if the opportunity arises I will buy the P95 before I buy the G19.
 
Hey Walter!

If Gunny Hathcock was carrying a Glock they sure as hell must be one helluva pistol ay?

He doesnt exactly fit into your Young,showoff,bandwagon and most of all ,,,,,I love this one,,,one of the best and most common Glock hater remarks out there,,,the ol "they shoot Glocks because they are inexperienced and dont know how to maintain any other firearm" type of guy now does he. LOL,,,Carlos Hathcock is a true hero to me, I only wish I could have met him.

I never did know that he carried a Glock, man,,,I gotta go buy another!

For those who dont know who we are talking about get the book Marine Snyper, guarenteed to be one of the best books you will ever read.

~Jason

~Jason
 
If you read bullet44s opening post I think the fact that Carlos Hathcock prefered a Glock puts a quick end to the,,,

"I believe Glocks and Glock like guns were
built for the young police officers of the
new liberal society that really have no interest in guns, not seen as a hobby but
as a can of pepper spray. "

Dont think there is many other people that loved the shooting sports more than Carlos Hathcock did, his love for shooting went way beyond his duties in Vietnam.

Just a thought :)
~Jason
 
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