Disappointed in the Glock grip
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marine6680
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The gen 4 glocs actually managed to feel good enough for me to finally get a Glock.
If they made a version without the finger grooves, I would like them better. Now, I would still have the grip angle to deal with, but I find that to be fairly easy to adapt to for the most part.
Still my M&P and VP9 are pretty much tied for my favorite polymer pistols I own my PPQ is up there too, but it's new, so I am still feeling it out. Though so far it's been great.
I did put an Apex kit into my M&P, and that really makes for a sweet setup.
I agree that the CZ pistols feel great, I own two... Awesome pistols. The trigger on some can be a bit heavy and rough at first, but they will smooth out after you shoot it a bit.
If they made a version without the finger grooves, I would like them better. Now, I would still have the grip angle to deal with, but I find that to be fairly easy to adapt to for the most part.
Still my M&P and VP9 are pretty much tied for my favorite polymer pistols I own my PPQ is up there too, but it's new, so I am still feeling it out. Though so far it's been great.
I did put an Apex kit into my M&P, and that really makes for a sweet setup.
I agree that the CZ pistols feel great, I own two... Awesome pistols. The trigger on some can be a bit heavy and rough at first, but they will smooth out after you shoot it a bit.
The objections to Glocks in general, center around the feel of the grip and the trigger. Both are easily overcome, in my experience, with some time on the range. The grip's blockiness is the single feature I found most annoying. While the Gen 4's grip has inserts, it's still too long from the trigger for me and I wear size L gloves.
You can 'fix' part of the grip feel and especially the trigger guard's impact on your 2nd finger with a little judicious use of 320 grit sandpaper and a wooden dowel. U-tube no doubt has a dozen videos on how to do this...it really helped my wife's G23.
The trigger is another story. Some have used a different connector, but I found that a Dremell with the polishing wheel on the interfacing parts smoothed the pull.
I rented a G17 for Front Sight's 4-day, Defensive Handgun Course several years ago. As a dyed in the wool 1911 user for over 45 yrs. at that point, I wondered if I'd like/or at least get used to the Glock's notorious trigger. It turned out to be a non-issue on the first day. By the 4th or 5th magazine, I was tuned in to it. The last day I won the steel challenge event and shot distinguished with the gun...
Hope you enjoy yours. Rod
You can 'fix' part of the grip feel and especially the trigger guard's impact on your 2nd finger with a little judicious use of 320 grit sandpaper and a wooden dowel. U-tube no doubt has a dozen videos on how to do this...it really helped my wife's G23.
The trigger is another story. Some have used a different connector, but I found that a Dremell with the polishing wheel on the interfacing parts smoothed the pull.
I rented a G17 for Front Sight's 4-day, Defensive Handgun Course several years ago. As a dyed in the wool 1911 user for over 45 yrs. at that point, I wondered if I'd like/or at least get used to the Glock's notorious trigger. It turned out to be a non-issue on the first day. By the 4th or 5th magazine, I was tuned in to it. The last day I won the steel challenge event and shot distinguished with the gun...
Hope you enjoy yours. Rod
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You & me both, brother; and I dislike the trigger just as bad. I fixed the grip and trigger deficiencies by acquiring a Sig P229.
I successfully avoided Glocks until 2008 when I painted myself into a corner where I had to train people with them. I am finally done with that my last Glock is getting sold this week. They are OK for their intended purpose, which is to give a moderately trained shooter a good chance of surviving a gunfight at two car lengths.
Sarge how do you come to the conclusion that Gocks are designed for moderately trained shooters at close range? While I am not a huge Glock fan, there are many with skills far better than "moderate" that choose Glocks. Whether the grip or trigger is to your liking or not, their simple and reliable function is hard to beat. I don't understand the need to denigrate what isn't liked.
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I've been carrying and shooting competition with Glocks since 1992 and have developed a permanent dent in my right index finger between the first 2 joints. Keep in mind that Glocks are just hammers, a tool at the end of the day, but hammers have a better grip. As far as trigger goes, you'll never make it into a 1911 or CZ, but their is a simple fix, just pull the trigger about 50,000 times and it will seem normal.
I like the grip of the 17 far better than the 19 and the M&P way better than the 17. The Glocks grip angle does bother some and that's a real issue for them. I don't seem to have any issues shooting guns with different grip angles right after one another. With that said, I do prefer a grip angle more along the lines of a Sig or HK.
There have been a quite a few alternative striker fired models mentioned that are very good. The ones that have arguably best in class ergonomics and triggers would be the HK VP9 and Walther PPQ. You say the PPQ feels like a toy. That sums up polymer hand guns in general for a lot of people. The PPQ's sure do shoot good though. The other two would be the Sig 320 and Steyr M9-A1 or L9-A1. The Steyr's have a similar grip angle to the Glock. In addition to the more comfortable grip and better trigger, they also tend to be very accurate and have low recoil/muzzle flip.
The mentioned FN FNS would also be a good choice and I put right there with the M&P in terms of comfort and trigger.
Why force yourself to try to shoot a model well that you find uncomfortable when there are so many better feeling options available.
There have been a quite a few alternative striker fired models mentioned that are very good. The ones that have arguably best in class ergonomics and triggers would be the HK VP9 and Walther PPQ. You say the PPQ feels like a toy. That sums up polymer hand guns in general for a lot of people. The PPQ's sure do shoot good though. The other two would be the Sig 320 and Steyr M9-A1 or L9-A1. The Steyr's have a similar grip angle to the Glock. In addition to the more comfortable grip and better trigger, they also tend to be very accurate and have low recoil/muzzle flip.
The mentioned FN FNS would also be a good choice and I put right there with the M&P in terms of comfort and trigger.
Why force yourself to try to shoot a model well that you find uncomfortable when there are so many better feeling options available.
Sarge I think a military pistol is designed to be effective in combat situations where a rifle is not a good option. Those situations cover many scenarios that require far more than moderate skills and limited accuracy. Glock, Sig, Berretta, Colt, or any other military handgun have to pass protocol testing that includes accuracy, reliability, and countless other requirements that have little to do with the weapon. A Glock is no different than any of the others in this regard. That includes the venerated 1911.
Cyanide971
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For me it isn't the Glock grip angle (had a pair of Steyr's in the past), but more so the finger grooves and trigger guard on the compact and subcompact models; the 19 and 26 in my case. I would get a serious case of "Glock Knuckle" from the trigger guard after firing just a couple of magazines, and then dealing with the finger grooves being so close, crammed my fingers by being forced together.
So, like others, I would simply get rid of them, which in my case is/was a mistake because I shoot Glocks just as well as the other pistols I have dealt with, regardless of grip angle, trigger type, etc. Now granted, I don't have any issue with the full size models, with exception of the trigger guard and pistol grip junction, but I simply prefer the smaller models.
So, when I acquired my fourth Glock a couple of weeks ago in the form of another Gen 4 19, I promised myself not to get rid of it, and that I would do the necessary grip mods that I had always talked of doing, but never did, along with adding the orange front Trijicon HD night sights.
Now it's still not, nor will ever be as natural pointing and feeling as my CZ P-07 or CZ 100, but the mods made a very noticeable and improved difference, especially when I draw from the holster. I'm no longer fighting with grooves trying to control where my fingers naturally wrap around the grip. This one's now a keeper.
So, like others, I would simply get rid of them, which in my case is/was a mistake because I shoot Glocks just as well as the other pistols I have dealt with, regardless of grip angle, trigger type, etc. Now granted, I don't have any issue with the full size models, with exception of the trigger guard and pistol grip junction, but I simply prefer the smaller models.
So, when I acquired my fourth Glock a couple of weeks ago in the form of another Gen 4 19, I promised myself not to get rid of it, and that I would do the necessary grip mods that I had always talked of doing, but never did, along with adding the orange front Trijicon HD night sights.
Now it's still not, nor will ever be as natural pointing and feeling as my CZ P-07 or CZ 100, but the mods made a very noticeable and improved difference, especially when I draw from the holster. I'm no longer fighting with grooves trying to control where my fingers naturally wrap around the grip. This one's now a keeper.
I don't think it has anything to do with any particular Glock model and certainly nothing to do with Gen 4. My estimation would be that 7 of 8 shooters would find most M&Ps far more comfortable than most Glocks. I'm not a Glock hater, and own a few. I also own a few M&Ps. I think they are all great guns, but find the M&Ps more comfortable by a very, very wide margin. I don't think that's unusual.
Cyanide971
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I will agree that initially the M&P is more comfortable in my hand but, the M&P series just doesn't do it for me, which is strange because I really like how the pistol is set up ergonomically.
Of course, I am a self-proclaimed oddball, as I actually prefer the grip of an SD9VE over the M&P9, full size or compact models. It just feels more natural and fits my hand better as it is. Go figure! LOL
Of course, I am a self-proclaimed oddball, as I actually prefer the grip of an SD9VE over the M&P9, full size or compact models. It just feels more natural and fits my hand better as it is. Go figure! LOL
Its designed to be a military service pistol. That isnt a limiting factor, its generally the shooter thats the problem.
f youre willing to open your mind, and actually learn to shoot, you can shoot pretty much anything. Ive found its usually the ones telling you, "you cant", that are the ones who cant.
