Did you escape to a less restrictive state?

Points of consideration, in order: gun-friendly laws, more moderate climate, and, reasonable cost of living.
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I was looking at housing in Anchorage today and was surprised at how relatively expensive it is.

With the new NY laws, perhaps more firearms manufacturers will finally leave the NE states as well.
 
Indiana doesn't get mentioned much in these conversations but its a pretty good state!
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It's SUPPOSED to be a pretty good entire country.

Gun rights aren't up to the states.. this is clearly defined in the Constitution.

We need to stop worrieng about what states "are good" and figure out how to get the rest of the country to follow the supreme law of the land.
 
Well, that's the current state of things but I actually disagree with Incorporation.


Specifically, we in NY don't need to worry about the new (or existing laws) violating the 2A of the COTUS.

The New York Civil Rights Law, Article 2, Section for provides that:

Right to keep and bear arms. A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms cannot be infringed.

The laws clearly violate New Yorks own law and constitutional provisions. The COTUS shouldn't even matter.
 
I was looking at housing in Anchorage today and was surprised at how relatively expensive it is.
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That's because there aren't many jobs, and all of your money goes toward other costs of living (food, clothing, power, etc).



RedBowTies88 said:
What disgusts me almost as much is the general response of fellow americans in other states. They say just simply "move away" nevermind the oppression or the right being trampled on just move away and forget the problem.
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This all needs to stop. we as A COUNTRY need to come together to wipe opression out of this country forever. No more leaving the citizens in the ban states high and dry and on their own. There is nothing we can do on our own to change our own laws when 75+% of the population agrees with them the way they are and so do the judges.
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If the people in your own state won't stand up for their rights, why should I stick my neck out for them?

If they are willing to be 'trampled' and abused, then they are getting what they deserve.
Education and activism starts at home - not half way across the country. Get people in your own state active and motivated, and you'll be able to get outside help. But, as long as the residents of the state are willing to lay down and take the abuse, there's no point in outside parties trying to help.
 
We are standing up for our rights, problem is compared to those who wish to have our rights stripped our numbers are useless. So the 1 in 8 of us who believe in being free have to suffer becuase of all the sheep? Or maybe we should just move away?:rolleyes:


You should stick your neck out for us becuase we're americans... we live and fight under the same flag. Not to mention the reprocussions from ketting these states go unchecked for so long is what we're seeing now. The lawmakers and people from those states pushing to get their way on a NATIONAL level.
 
Re: Indiana...

Meant it was overall a very nice underrated state. Not just for 2A.

Y'all in failed states got to decide to fight or join us in the free states. Appreciate if you go down with the ship but may want to pray like hell and row towards the shore.
 
I literally ran away from Massachusetts over 20 years ago due to the suffocating nature of most of the laws there, especially the ones concerning firearms. As a member of a minority group, I found the patronizing laws inimical to my personal liberties. :cool:
 
I've been fortunate enough to live in New Hampshire all of my life, its a great state in every aspect imo, not just because of it's pro gun attitude. I don't plan on ever moving out of it, and I also do not think NH's attitude will change about the 2nd amendment.
 
I live in Massachusetts where we have some of the stricter gun laws in the country. As much as I would like to move to a gun friendlier state, family and friends are more important to me than increasing my selection of guns to buy.

I've been fortunate enough to live in New Hampshire all of my life, its a great state in every aspect imo, not just because of it's pro gun attitude. I don't plan on ever moving out of it, and I also do not think NH's attitude will change about the 2nd amendment.
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I lived in NH 2 years, and it is a great state besides one thing, the police are bastards. Never gotten pulled over so many times for doing absolutely nothing, and then to top it all off they treat you like a criminal regardless of what you did. Now it could have been my Massachusetts plates the whole time I lived there, but even so I cringe every time I have to drive through that state.
 
Smart to leave a state that is lost and move to a state that respects you. Only a fool would stay under the boot of idiot laws if they have a choice. Where I live is so far gone that I'm getting out as soon as I am able.
 
RedBow, I coulden't agree more! Don't be run out of your home, fight for what is right.
I can't help but notice that the most violent citys are the ones that have the strictest gun laws. More guns= more resistence to violence. Most criminals are cowerds and pick on the weak. Don't be weak.
 
Of course as more people leave these states it threatens the amount of power they have in Washington as they will eventually lose congressmen. ( that is if the government does not change that process too )
 
Smart to leave a state that is lost and move to a state that respects you. Only a fool would stay under the boot of idiot laws if they have a choice. Where I live is so far gone that I'm getting out as soon as I am able.
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What about those who are too poor to pick up and move?

What about those giving care to a sick family member or who are themselves not well enough to move? What about the grandparents who live a block away from their grandchildren... they should move away too?

What about those who are the principal in a business built by the blood sweat and tears of their ancestors? They should just forget it all and pick up and move too?

Like I said before, it's funny how no one thought the answer to jim crowe laws was for all the minorities to pick up and leave... I sure as hell don't see the difference except the fact that these laws are aginst the whole population and not just one or several races.

Once again the fact that people think moving away is the answer completely mind boggles me.
 
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Well , I got a couple of friends who live in the Buffalo area that are packing up & looking to move out because of the new law.


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Left California in 1996,,,

I moved to California in 1975,,,
Lived in No-Cal for 19 years,,,
Moved to So-Cal in 1994,,,
Left for good in 1996.

I saw the way the wind was blowing against gun owners,,,
I decided to get out and go somewhere more friendly.

I moved to Oklahoma where I happily can own as many guns as I want,,,
And carry concealed or openly as my desire dictates.

Aarond

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I moved from IL to NC in '96 for other reasons. I was surprised when I learned I didn't need to apply for a new FOID card. I was really happy when I learned that I could get a different type of card...
 
"Once again the fact that people think moving away is the answer completely mind boggles me."

It is not "the" answer to the problem, merely a reaction to statism. I agree about family obligations, so stay within range and visit, but completely disagree that staying is the answer. If you are poor, save money as best as possible. Might take a few years, but I would rather be poor in a free state than be poor in shackles in a state of statism. If the people here in California want certain things that I disagree with, so be it. The ballot box is the scoreboard and elections have consequences. Trust me when I say that for sure, it will only get worse here in California for gun owners and never better in my lifetime or my children's and grandchildren's lifetimes. Demographics are another "scoreboard." It is done here, finished. I don't believe the Constitution will be respected. On a national level, I believe the tide has changed for many generations to come, but I believe there will be a few good states around for a few generations. Long term, I'm not optimistic on any level as it relates to personal freedom, especially with firearms, based on world unification.
 
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