Did you escape to a less restrictive state?

We moved to Illinois for a job. As soon as we were able to cross the Mississippi to the Iowa side, we did for the main reason of Illinois and their gun laws.

I'm on the fence on whether to continue working overseas and save up enough to move back out West or wait until retirement. Either way, it will be Utah, western Wyoming, western Montana, Idaho, Nevada, or northern Arizona come hell or high water.

And Al, those kind of temps are heaven to me!
 
Skintner,
Yes you are right about WA. I live right across the state line in Idaho and do monitor what is going on over there. In most cases, WA is ruled by the "ruling class" of just down right Liberals in the Seattle/Tacoma area. It is a major voting block there and they pretty much control the rest of the state which is more rural and conservative. If you ever go to Seattle you will get the feel of San Francisco in just watching people and the way they go about their daily lives. I guess it is good for them, however, it is sad that they control the rest of the citizens of the state. I would not want to be citizen of WA (a light to dark blue state at best).

G19 - I love the picture of the sign.....I understand why you love Texas.

Al Norris - To heap all of Idaho into one statement about the temps is a bit much for such a large state such as ID. Our state runs from the CA/Nevada/Utah North borders to Canada. Where I live, the altitude is 2000 ft above sea level and the winters are extremely mild! I am only 150 miles from Canada!!!:D Two years ago for all of winter, I never shoveled one shovel full of snow between Dec and March because there was no snow and the minimum temp was around 22-23 degrees!

Elker

Happy in the red state of Idaho.
 
Draconian? How so?
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Have you really looked at Illinois' gun laws?

According to the Brady Campaign Against Gun Violence. Illinois is one of the better states for gun owners with a score of 35. Zero being the ‘freest’ of states for gun owners, and 100 being most restrictive for gun owners.
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You're banking your belief on what the Brady Campaign has to say? Now, I'm beginning to see how you came to your conclusion.

Now that Illinois will have some form of concealed carry, the statistics say it’s one of the better states to live in for gun owners.
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Tell me where in their laws you can CCW, other than being in LE.

I can have high-cap mags, pistol grip rifles, bayonet lugs and the bayonets to mount on it, soon to have CCW, etc, etc.
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That hasn't come to fruition, yet. As a matter of fact, IL lawmakers have recently tried to shove laws down the citizens' throats banning a mountain-load of firearms. Sure doesn't seem to me the current IL government is ready to look out for them.

No, Illinois is not the best state, but I'd stop short of calling it draconian.
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With the only state that completely infringes your right to CCW, has counties that outright ban several firearms (Cook being one of them), and gun laws through the nose enough to stake the #1 spot as the nation's WORST in infringing on peoples' rights, I think your assessment is entirely off base.
 
My Buddy runs a large Security Company in Chicago. His people are armed all the time, work closely with different Aldermen, arrest drug dealers, and back up the cops.

Guess the law is better for some.
 
I lived in southern CA for 18 years.

I was a Real Estate agent during the RE boom/bubble.

We made a good pile of money and bailed out for TX.


Liberal politics, restrictive EVERYTHING was the reason for the move.
My old HOA regulations (community laws) were a book 3 inches thick.

My new HOA regulations here in Texas = 3 pages of common sense stuff.

I always knew I'd come back to Texas. Galveston was my first duty station after boot camp.
 
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While I still have many relatives that live in IL, I will never move back to that state while their laws remain so draconian.
Draconian? How so?

According to the Brady Campaign Against Gun Violence. Illinois is one of the better states for gun owners with a score of 35. Zero being the ‘freest’ of states for gun owners, and 100 being most restrictive for gun owners.

Now that Illinois will have some form of concealed carry, the statistics say it’s one of the better states to live in for gun owners.

I can have high-cap mags, pistol grip rifles, bayonet lugs and the bayonets to mount on it, soon to have CCW, etc, etc.

No, Illinois is not the best state, but I'd stop short of calling it draconian.
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Maybe not compared to California, Massachusetts, or New York, but compared to where I moved (Indiana) it's quite draconian. I do not have to have a FOID to own a gun or buy ammunition, I need not endure any asinine waiting periods (which are completely unnecessary in the age of NICS), I don't have to worry about silly local bans due to our state pre-emption law, my employer can't ban me from keeping a gun in my car, I enjoy the protection of a state with the Castle Doctrine law, and I've been able to legally carry a loaded handgun since I was 18.

Furthermore, you don't know what type of CC you'll be getting yet, but Indiana is shall-issue, has no training requirements, allows both open and concealed carry, has a very short list of prohibited places, private business "no guns" signs carry no force of law, and lifetime licenses are offered. About the only states that I can think of with better gun laws than Indiana are Constitutional Carry states like AK, AZ, WY, and VT.
 
Currently, I live in Alaska, where I enjoy my gun rights daily. However, I plan on retiring in the next 4 - 5 years, and have promised my wife (who is tired of 6 month-long winters) that we will find a final resting spot somewhere in the lower 48. Points of consideration, in order: gun-friendly laws, more moderate climate, and, reasonable cost of living.
 
Moving usually involves several factors, but 2A freedoms was a big one for me in my last move. I left the DRACONIAN state if IL for Louisiana. One of the first things I did? Bought a new gun with no waiting period. With ammo too. Felt great.

There are only certain states I will live in.

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I was very young when I moved to Arizona, but in that respect, despite the blistering heat during the summer, whenever I finally retire from the military, I plan on staying in AZ, provided it remains open and supportive of firearms owners.

Might look to move out of the valley though, the pollution wreaks havoc on my allergies and such.
 
Have you really looked at Illinois' gun laws?
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Ummm, yea, I live here.

You're banking your belief on what the Brady Campaign has to say? Now, I'm beginning to see how you came to your conclusion.
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The Brady bunch doesn’t like Illinois, that’s a good thing for gun owners. If you have a better source for rankings nation wide, please share.

Tell me where in their laws you can CCW, other than being in LE.
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In case you haven’t heard, Illinois has been court ordered to provide CCW. The court order gave them 90 days. That was a couple weeks ago. Granted, they will more then likely have some lame sort of ‘may issue’ but so does 15+ other states in the Union.

That hasn't come to fruition, yet.
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High cap mags? I have dozens, 15, 20 and 30 rounders, each and every one of them perfectly legal. Pistol grip stocks? Perfectly legal. There are many states where those are illegal.

Chicago? I could care less what happens in that hole. Chicago does not represent the rest of us normal people down state, no more then an anti-gun guy next door to you represents you.

Again I say, Illinois is not the most gun friendly state, that I will not argue. But it is far from the worse, and far from draconian.
 
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Well the Navy is the reason I moved out of NJ and eventually ended up in VA but the firearms laws were part of the reason that I chose not to return when my enlistment ended and part of the reason I have since stayed in VA.
 
I lived in CA for a long time growing up, then went to WA and finally FL. SO much better here!

But it wasn't really 100% my choice. Military sends me where I'm needed and I just enjoy the ride :)
 
I lived in Chicago from 1953 until 1995 moved to MI then to Wisconsin.
The amount of freedom you get when you cross the state line is
unbelievable. The sad part is that my friends and family that still live
there will never understand because they have never experienced any
thing other than corrupt city workers,cameras on every traffic signal and
corner and accept a murder rate that would get the police chief kicked out
of most cities all I hear is that there is nothing anyone can do while still voting
the same people in year after year. Besides they will miss all that wonderful
diversity that comes from the gang bangers of a different background.
 
I am still stuck in CA due to my career. In another 6 years or so, you can be guaranteed I am leaving CA for Idaho or Utah. My wife is on board. CA retirement tax is 9% with the highest cost of living and the most restrictive laws. Kalifornia is gorgeous, but the bleeding left wing libs and Hollywood have destroyed the state politically!

The Left politicians (Super Majority) have successfully brainwashed the citizens as they become wealthier and wealthier with thier BS agendas! Selfish and shameful!

I am lucky because I can buy guns just as the out of state people can due to my LEO status. BUT, my guns are registered with the State DOJ as Assault Weapons which sucks!

I will move from CA mostly because of the gun laws and the high taxes. CA can keep the fricken bullet train and windmills.,I will be GONE ASAP!
 
Those of us in free states shouldn't discourage those who believe and want to live like us from moving to our states.

We should however discourage those who want to bring their failed social and economic policies with them.

Austin has been transformed from this outlaw country hippie enclave to a monied playground for wealthy statist Californians.

So Austin is full, unless you're some type of conservative/libertarian.
 
as is Sun Valley/Ketchum/Hailey (Blaine County), Moscow (Latah County) and to a lesser extent, Boise (Ada County) and Coeur d'Alene (Kootenai County).
 
It's hot in the summer, cold in the the winter and we have a few twisters now and then but Oklahoma is a great place.
 
Grew up in NM, then lived in SoCal for 21 years. My job brought me back to NM about a year ago, and I've been enjoying (and taking advantage of) the less-restrictive gun laws here. Unfortunately, this job is a long-term temp job, so in the next few years I'll be faced with returning to CA (where I've still got a house and a wife) or convincing the wife to leave CA (the only place she's ever lived) and moving to a state that respects 2A issues the way I do. Getting her to move is not going to be an easy task. I'm hoping it doesn't come down to a decision between the guns or the wife...I'd miss the ol' girl. :rolleyes: :D

Geographically, CA is one of my favorite places on earth. Politically and socially, not so much.
 
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