Did glock ever sort out their FTE issues since the Gen 4 release?

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Captains1911 said:
How long have Gen4 Glocks been out now? There were some very early issues that were immediately corrected. The idea that there are still issues is totally over blown and unwarranted.
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Again, my Gen4 G19 is dated Feb 2015 and has dribbling weak ejection and major BTF issues. This is the gun I own, not hearsay. It hasn't failed yet but it certainly isn't functioning like all my other guns that give me a strong 3-4 o clock ejection.
 
Considering the shear number of Glocks in use, of course there will be a problem here and there, just like with any mechanical device. This doesn't mean an inherent defect exists. Just think of the thousands and thousands that run flawlessly. All of mine do (I own 4), as do all of the ones owned by people I know. Seriously, buy with confidence, and stop over considering all the internet crap you read.....and this goes for almost every brand out there, not just Glock.
 
All of mine do (I own 4), as do all of the ones owned by people I know.
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Right, but how does your anecdotal evidence trump anyone else's anecdotal evidence? You're right that with any product made in the thousands there will be defects, lemons, the standard fare. What is interesting in this case is that the defects are consistent. It's the same issue, or at least appears to be, across those having problems. To me that isn't just a random variable being random, it's something systemic. Now you're right that the percentage of those affected may well be on the low end, but that doesn't mean there aren't those affected. I would say poor ejection seems to be a much more reported problem with Glocks than other pistols of similar design. That's not to say those other pistols don't have their own problems, however.
 
It just seems that the only place where there seems to be "problem" is on the Internet...just my experience from seeing a lot of them through the course of training, instructing, and competing.
 
Some of the most prolific trainers and competitive shooters have also attested to continuing issues. See the relatively frequent ongoing discussions on the pistol at pistol-forum.

The Gen4 issues aren't manufactured or false. They're the minority but they're real and demonstrable. There's a ton of video evidence of them.

I'm no Glock-hater, the Gen 4 19 is perhaps the most versatile, well-balanced pistol I've ever had. I really wanted it to work perfectly and I'll likely stick with it or trade into a newer one. But the fact of the matter is that the ejection on mine is not good.
 
It just seems that the only place where there seems to be "problem" is on the Internet...just my experience from seeing a lot of them through the course of training, instructing, and competing.
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There are several people on this thread saying they have experienced it, and continue to experience it. Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it isn't real.

I haven't experienced it with my Glock 27, but I don't discount the experiences of those that have. I just consider myself lucky.

And, yes, anything mechanical can have issues. But how many guys shooting M&P's, Sigs, CZs, HKs, Rugers, etc. are complaining about BTF issues?
 
For every one person that experiences a problem and posts about it all over the Internet, there are thousands of perfectly satisfied people who you never hear from. That effect often makes things seem worse than they are. That is all I'm saying, not discrediting anybody here, just pointing out the probabilities.
 
Captains1911, your point that we don't have hard data is quite correct, and I don't mean to dump on you, but assuming that there are thousands of good ones for every one with problems reveals a bias in the other direction. When you see properly functioning ones at competitions and classes, your sample is biased towards working ones because ones with problems won't make it to competition and might not be brought to a class, if the student is aware of the problem ahead of time. I am perhaps more sensitive to such things because I see similar reasoning all the time in medicine; specialists report large proportions of complex diagnoses and forget that the general practitioners are solving the simple problems without referral.

All we really know is that the problem is more than zero and less than 100%. (Actually, we also know that Glock made recommendations for hot ammo and break-in periods that they never did before, and changed parts multiple times, for a problem that they never openly acknowledged, either. I would have had more confidence in the company if they had handled it better.)
 
I have had a Gen 4 Glock 23 for about a year now. No issues, but it does spit the brass. Not at me, but it will go way up in the air, it actually manages to put then over a dividing wall at a local range and into another booth. Since I discovered this I have always tried my very best to get in the end stall. That way I don't bother other shooters.
 
My first Gen 4 gave tons of brass to the face. Change the extractor and it still did it. Changed the ejector block, still did it.

Didn't deter me, I bought another Glock 19 Gen 4 and it ran about 1,000 rounds with zero issues before I sold it to my friend.

I think any new production Glock Gen 4 is good to go. I actually prefer Gen 4's over any other generation.
 
I have owned two Glocks, a third gen 21 and forth gen 19. I bought both of them in early 2014 I believe and both had the brass to face issue. It annoyed me enough that I sold both right away. I would not be afraid to buy another one though. They both functioned flawlessly excluding randomly attacking my face with brass.
 
Captains1911 said:
For every one person that experiences a problem and posts about it all over the Internet, there are thousands of perfectly satisfied people who you never hear from. That effect often makes things seem worse than they are. That is all I'm saying, not discrediting anybody here, just pointing out the probabilities.
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It's still a problem. My $545 pistol spits in my face, and it doesn't much matter to me that most are fine. I waited nearly two years after wanting a G19G4 to get one precisely to make sure they had time to iron out the bugs. Its unacceptable to me to still have BRF/dribbling ejection.

Again, I LIKE Glock, but the problem needs to be fixed, not pooh-poohed away as a statistical anomaly. This didn't used to happen with Glocks and now it does.
 
I purchased a Glock 19 Gen 4 about 6 weeks ago and have put 600 rounds through her. Performed flawlessly and majority of rounds ejected to side at 3-4 o clock and not back at me.
 
I purchased a Glock 19 Gen 4 about 6 weeks ago and have put 600 rounds through her. Performed flawlessly and majority of rounds ejected to side at 3-4 o clock and not back at me.
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I believe your experience parallels 99.9% of all glock users out there, it's just hard for some to see the big picture while looking through a straw....
 
I believe your experience parallels 99.9% of all glock users out there, it's just hard for some to see the big picture while looking through a straw....
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Lol, by all means make up the statistic that fits your narrative. All those 0.1% must be on this forum. :rolleyes:
 
Lol, by all means make up the statistic that fits your narrative. All those 0.1% must be on this for
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How many Glock users do you think visit internet gun forums in general? It's a very very small percentage. I don't think you understand the number of Glocks that are in use in the world, seriously.
 
Captains1911 said:
How many Glock users do you think visit internet gun forums in general? It's a very very small percentage. I don't think you understand the number of Glocks that are in use in the world, seriously.
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And you don't seem to understand that when the Glock 19 goes from the de facto standard in handgun reliability to the first question when you get one being "how does it eject?" the issues might not be fabricated.
 
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