Dealers prefer selling Glocks?

"Safety", handgun sales, new shooters...

The term; "safety" can meet different things to different types of gun owners or sworn LE officers.
Some may feel a magazine or grip safety are good features. Others may feel a ambi-style manual safety lever is smart. A few may like no safety controls on a slide or frame at all.
Gun writer, LEO and use of force expert Massad Ayoob wrote in a article about how is small PD issued the Ruger .45acp pistol. Ayoob stated that half the police officers wore the duty pistol with the safety: ON, half left the safety: OFF. There was a time in the late 1980s/early 1990s where LAPD dept policy was for the new 92F 9mm sidearms to be worn; safety OFF.

Gun shop employees & FFL holders can have their own likes or dislikes but they should have the sense or ethical standards to sell handguns based on a customer's budget, training or skill level. Not on what "sells" or "looks cool".
 
I think Glocks are ugly and have no soul. I use a Glock-36 for my everyday carry. It ain't good looking but it is good shooting.
 
hey wait a minute. i own a glock and i also reload. i must be doing something wrong here.

they have after market barrels. never mind, i fixed the problem.
 
"I think Glocks are ugly and have no soul. I use a Glock-36 for my everyday carry. It ain't good looking but it is good shooting."


i carried a 27 for a while until i picked up the 30, actually shot it better and sold the 27.

ez to hide and 10, where you've got 6 in the mag.
 
That said, I've never felt the Glock was a good choice for a beginner. That trigger is unforgiving of sloppy discipline. The disassembly levers are awkward with weak or small hands. Requiring a pull of the trigger to disassemble (without forcing the user to check the chamber) is an invitation to disaster, as I've personally seen twice.
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What firearm forces the user to "check the chamber"? Unforgiving trigger???? Most triggers will fire when pulled Glock is no different. If someone is dumb enough to pull the trigger without intending to fire the firearm then why should we believe that they can even use an external safety? There are some folks that just shouldn't own firearms as they just can't do so with utter safety. To suggest that an external safety will compensate for this lack of safe gun handling skills is just plain silly. Sooner or latter an ND will happen regardless of platform with these folks.
 
3 Gun's post; safety controls on handguns...

I strongly disagree with 3-Gun's post.

Handgun owners, armed professionals or sworn LEOs may want/need safety features for a number of reasons, not just gun handling skills.
Many gunners like the concept of a ambi safety for weapon retention or for storage-security in the home(near small children or untrained adults).
Grip safeties, magazine safeties, trigger safeties etc may not be a choice for everyone but I can understand the practical use.

As many firearms/use of force instructors tell new students; "You can have a lot of speed or a lot of security but you can't have both".
 
What firearm forces the user to "check the chamber"?
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Sig Sauer pistols, the Springfield XD and many others require the slide to be locked back prior to disassembly, making it highly unlikely that someone could disassemble the weapon with a round in the chamber. If a pistol requires a pull of the trigger to disassemble, then it would be a good idea to require that the slide be locked back.

There are very experienced shooters out there who've hurt themselves by failing to check the chamber first.

If someone is dumb enough to pull the trigger without intending to fire the firearm then why should we believe that they can even use an external safety?
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I agree on principle, but in practice, a person with sloppy trigger discipline is less likely to be a danger to themselves and others if the gun has a heavier trigger pull.

I'm not saying the Glock is inherently unsafe; I simply posit that it's better suited to shooters who have solid fundamental safety habits.

Grip safeties, magazine safeties, trigger safeties etc may not be a choice for everyone but I can understand the practical use.
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I absolutely detested magazine safeties until I met a sheriff's deputy who'd been saved by one. I'm still not a fan for my own use, but to each his own.
 
"Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickel-plated sissy pistol"- Tommy Lee Jones as Inspector Samuel Gerard in U.S. Marshals


That's all I'll buy,other than snubnose revolvers and the occasional shotgun!
 
Gander Mountain

I was at Gander Mountain, All New Glocks were $499. There was a full display case full of glocks. I was looking for a SW 38/357 3in barrel that was on sale but they didn't have it. So I bought some powder and went home.
 
As everyone has already repeated over and over. It's as simple as everyone knows Glocks. If a complete newbie is going in for their first gun, no experience with firearms. They just want something to protect themselves in their homes, the things that are going to be running through there minds is what leos are carrying, and what they've seen in movies. Like has been said Tommy Lee Jones endourced the Glock, and how many movies have you seen that the victim in the movie points their gun that they don't know well at the BG and the BG takes one look at the weapon and sees the safety is still on.

Glocks= everyone has em, safety is the trigger, incredibly simple to use.
 
Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickel-plated sissy pistol"- Tommy Lee Jones as Inspector Samuel Gerard in U.S. Marshals
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That might make sense if Tommy Lee Jones was some sort of expert on guns and not an actor.

But hey if you limit you gun choices to what one actor or another says instead of some sort of semi objective knowledge, well hey thats on you.

Im sure that choosing a gun based on some acting lines is a great choice. :rolleyes::p
 
Glocks= everyone has em, safety is the trigger, incredibly simple to use.
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No, many of us dont and wont own one because we find no redeeming value in it beyond sheer reliability as a generalized statement.

Funny though I have a fair number of guns that have other traits and more traits such a beauty, better trigger, better sights, better grip and arent made of craptastic plastic.

Oh yea, we can get them with all the safetys in the trigger too......

Glock has definitely cornered the market on mid 1980's technology but many of us have moved on to 2011 tech.
 
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^Bolt-action rifles have remained largely unchanged since their original introduction. Some will argue that older models are better than newer.

My first gun was a Glock 23 at age 21 and I don't have any holes that aren't god given. I bought it because of the ability to use it quickly, pull it out and pull the trigger. When I taught my now wife how to shoot it I couldn't make it any easier. Point it at what you want to fall down and pull the trigger. Is it the safest gun on the planet? No. Did I want my wife, or myself, to play mousetrap before I could put a round downrange? No.


If you aren't careless you will be fine, but same could be said for damn near anything.
 
Thank you for the many replies.

And yes, although Glocks may not have souls and may be old tech, I'll at least give them credit for being tough and reliable. I'll still politely decline to look at the Glocks when my dealer tries to push one on me, but after reading all these replies I can at least appreciate more why he seems to push them so eagerly on his customers.
 
I think that pushing the sale of Glocks may have to do with the world renowned reliability. Dealers see them as a "no head ache" firearm. If someone is going to come back and complain about this or that it makes more work for the dealer. If they know with a high level of confidence that that customer wont bring the gun back unhappy, there's your motivation. Happy Customer.
 
There used to be a saying about Ford pick-up trucks: Some swear by 'em; some swear at 'em. The reality was that (at that time) the Ford and the Chevy pick-ups were both equally good. Some people just preferred one or the other.

The same holds for Glocks. Some swear by 'em; some swear at 'em.

My wife and I've bought several handguns in the past year or so, each under $500 -- and easily did 20+ hours of internet research before buying any of them. (Seriously, for someone in our financial situation about to make a multi-$100 purchase, that is about the minimum required.) None have been Glocks, but that is not a negative on Glock. In each case, something else felt better in the grip *for an individual hand*. So . . . would I recommend a Glock? Sure, if that felt best with the person involved. Same for a Springfield, a Ruger, a Smith&Wesson, etc.

Glock's advantage for the newbie gun owner, besides the name recognition, is the wide range of product available -- 21 different models, if I counted right at their website -- at a reasonable introductory price. From the point of view of a salesclerk / salesman, it's easy to start with that product line.
 
That might make sense if Tommy Lee Jones was some sort of expert on guns and not an actor.
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I wonder what many "experts" carry? Oh wait I know already.....GLOCK.

Glock has definitely cornered the market on mid 1980's technology but many of us have moved on to 2011 tech.
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And many of you are still carrying 1911 technology. Using your logic its time to move past the 1911.
 
Glock's advantage for the newbie gun owner, besides the name recognition, is the wide range of product available -- 21 different models, if I counted right at their website -- at a reasonable introductory price. From the point of view of a salesclerk / salesman, it's easy to start with that product line.
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They are essentially the same, just different sizes and calibers. Although calibers are often interchangeable as well with the correct barrel. I am not complaining. They made the Honda Civic of the Gun world.
 
I wonder what many "experts" carry? Oh wait I know already.....GLOCK.
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Hummm and how many glocks are used by the highest level of competition shooters at the national level? I know there might be one or two but I havent seen any, I see 1911 after 1911.

Using your logic its time to move past the 1911
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. Depending on whos making it some 1911's are very different from the origional and certainly bear some level of updated tech unlike glock who adds a double spring instead of a single and abbracadabra its a 4th Gen... Wow what a tremendous development.... :rolleyes:

Further I dont carry any 1911's even though I do like them alot. The Glocks rotating barrel isnt even glocks own tech.... Hey if you like it, thats great... Enjoy it but lets not pretend its a must have brand by any means.
 
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