Bruce is an honorable man of his word. I think that in this instance he is wrong but that does not change my opinion of the man. We all make mistakes. I do not believe there was any ill intention or cover up on his part. It would just not be consistent with every interaction I have ever had with him.
Here is what he said on the Sigforum:
posted August 01, 2017 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by Grayguns:
Friends,
Nothing being discussed here appears to be based in fact from what my informed sources tell us. I can't go into details, but I can comment on some of what's been "reported".
I've personally drop-tested a bunch of P320's in various conditions and in excess of ANSI/SAAMI protocol, and cannot get them to fail.
The so-called P320 drop test video referenced by many is an outright fraud intended to damage SIG SAUER and the P320, in my opinion. I can perhaps replicate what it portrays, only by removing a bunch of springs and the striker lock first. I defy the makers of that video to come forth and prove they can make a stock P320 fire like that in my presence, under controlled conditions. They can't.
In any event I predict this decision by someone in DPD will not pan out to be objectively reasonable or justifiable, and will be reversed.
-Bruce
posted August 05, 2017 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by Grayguns:
I am here to tell you that there is no safety issues with the P320.
There was no incident, ND, or failure of a P320 of any sort that prompted the memo by Lt. Williamson.
DPD does not have any in their inventory, has never tested it, has only a couple officers carrying it so far, and none have had any issues.
The memo was simply addressing some outdated legacy language that inexplicably made it's way into one of the P320 owner's manuals. In doing due diligence just as I would have, this was questioned, SIG responded to clarify, and it was over.
All reports and online discussions to follow trace back to an article published by gunmagwarehouse.com. There was a headline stating "SIG SAUER P320 Fails Drop Test." In the article, the author reports that an anonymous reliable source within DPD stated that a P320 ND'd during training, among other inflammatory implications that proved not to be true.
I reached out, speaking for myself and Grayguns Inc., to this author on Tuesday to offer factual, verifiable information or an interview, but was rebuffed. This erroneous story was then reposted and repeated widely.
I and others knew this entire thing was bull-CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED- from the start, but the author of this hyped up and apparently fabricated non-story from an "anonymous source" was not interested in hearing verifiable information, on the record.
And, for that record, there has never been a verified instance of any P320 firing when dropped out of the nearly 350,000 sold to date, much less a factory-spec pistol.
I have looked for such reports and followed up on everything I find, for three solud years. It hasn't happened.
The recent YouTube video pupirtibg to show a "P320 drop test" failure is an obvious fake.
I have personally bounced these puppies off of everything I can find. No go bang, ever.
This crap needs to be dismissed. The P320 is safe.
-Bruce
These were both before the most recent TTAG video was uploaded but IIRC after the Omaha Outdoors video. For me the TTAG video is much more damaging because it was a new out of the box gun. It has not been subjected to the same tests and abuse the Omaha Outdoors guns had.
After that I believe Bruce goes silent.
Time for Bruce to speak up and admit that he was wrong, along with offering some apologies for wrongly accusing people of being "outright frauds", liars and fakers.
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