CZ 75 vs Glock 17

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Non-drop free Glock mags are legal in most states that have mag capacity limits...they are considered "pre ban" and are thus legal. Because of this, they are worth about twice what a current drop free Glock mag sells for.
 
I did a lot of side-by side comparisions of triggers today Gun n against Glock 17.

Springfield Armory XD Tactical Model 5" v Glock 17 - the XD had a much better trigger

Kahr CM9 v Glock 17 - the Kahr had a better trigger

CZ75 v Glock 75 - The CZ had a much better trigger used in SA mode.

I would say that the Glock trigger was better than the CZ in DA, but not by much.

And when I pushed the magazine release button on the Glock - nothing happened. I was thinking "hmmmm.... so much for quick reloads"

I am still considering getting the Glock to build with. I am hoping that a stainless CCF frame, and a trigger kit will improve things for my Frankenglock.

It's something that I would play around with, but I would use P7M8 for any serious situation. I have read the articles on learning to shoot the Glock trigger - and uh, well first of all that's like your car needing a front end alignment really badly, but if you just apply pressure to the steering wheel just so.. it will go straight. When my Frankenglock is built and I've done eveything I could to fix the trigger and if it's still a crappy Glock trigger, well, by that time I will have invested so much money in the thing that I will probably have to practice shooting the "Glock" trigger or face being frustrated and bitter everytime I leave the range.

Well... we'll see.
 
I have three glocks...G26, G17, and G30. They all drop the mag when the mag release is pushed...no hesitation, no sticking...the mag is out.
My G17 is mainly a range gun, so I experimented with a Ghost Rocket connector and some wolff springs...the trigger is much lighter. My other two glocks have stock everything. I shoot all three equally well. I can hit to minute of torso out to 100yds with the G17. With the G30 and G26, I have no problem hitting my clubs 10" round steel plates at 40yds.
No doubt the glock trigger is different than the SA triggers I am used to with 1911's and HiPowers...but once learned, they work great. The short definate reset is fantastic for quick rapidfire. And, they give nothing up in accurate shooting at normal combat handgun ranges.
 
I shot both pistols a lot (I was fortunate in that friends/acquaintances owned both brands) before deciding which of the two I wanted. I own a CZ85 now, along with many other semi-auto pistols, but nary a Glock among them. I just can't get used to the trigger pull on the Glock (and similar other such pistols). And if I ever shot a Glock long enough to "get used to it", I would never like it.
 
The CZ probably the strongest handgun ever designed. And I prefer it's trigger and grip angle over the Glock. The DA trigger is a little too long for me and my small hands, but it is something I can work with.

I'd take a CZ pre-B over a Glock any time.
 
For me accuracy is a wash between the two. I do like CZ's manual of arms, but it's tough to beat Glock's Safe-Action's quick reset.

In terms of reliability I've had better performance from Glocks. I've been able to feed a wider variety of FMJ and JHP through Glocks without any issues. On more than one occasion, using ammo from the same box, I experienced failures to feed with CZs and not with Glocks.

All of this is purely subjective, and I'm sure that plenty of other folks probably had the opposite experience.:)
 
Introduced to Glock first by my neighbor (I'm really a Colt wheel gun guy), then the CZ by my BIL...I now own 4, 1953 CZ52 in 7.62X25mm Tok, a 1981 CZ75 9X19mm Lugar, a 1983 CZ 82 9X18 mm Mak and an 1991 CZ 85 9X19mm Lugar.

I like the 85 the best. Never had a failure to feed or fire with any of them. The CZ52 is the most fun to shoot and the grandkids like the 82

The Glock owning neighbor is now buying some CZ's for himself. (CZ97 and don't remember the other model #)
 
CZ is significantly more confortable in hand, I hate finger grooves on handguns. The CZ lays your hand where it naturally feels. mine has a 4.75 pound trigger with a clean break too glocks usually run around 6 in my experience and are kind of crunchy/mushy.
 
I don't have a full sized CZ75 but I do have a have a CZ75P-07 Duty along with owning a G17, G19 and a G26 and it's a wash for me. I keep my 17 as my truck gun along with my Kel-Tec Sub200 since they share magazines and both wear 33 rounders in their wells. I alternate on what I feel like for CCW between my 19 or my P-07 and the 26 is for when I'm in shorts.

Only time I carried my 17 as CCW was last year in Laredo on a TDY for 3 months working with CBP and said screw this and carried my 19 from then on.

Being said all three of my Glocks are custom stippled and have under cuts to the trigger guard (by me), run 3.5# connectors and it's a point and shoot affair like pointing my finger and going bang! It's a thing of uninspired but reliable magic. My P-07 on the other hand gets me fired up! the way it sits in my hand, the way I can connect with ease with a target. I am in lust with this gun like having an affair. I've been bit by the CZ bug and want to get an SP-01, P-09 and regular old 75B or BD.

Off on a tangent, I picked up a Diamondback DB9FS the full size gun and although it shares a lot with a G17 in terms of look and style; the feel of the grip is what a Glock should have felt like! Good or bad I love this gun too. I can't run +p or +p+ in it like my Gaston guns though which is a shame.
 
CZ75 everytime UNLESS it rarely gets cleaned and lubed.......in which case I'd choose the XD as a poly frame over the Block in a second!
 
Nothing wrong with Glocks. You really can't go wrong with the 17, or 19. They are great pistols, but I really, really like, and prefer my CZ's.
 
Here's a quick rundown of the major differences.

I find the CZ-75 to be more accurate and easier to shoot rapidly than the Glock 17. The extra weight really makes it easy to get back on target fast and the single-action trigger pull is generally pretty nice.

The CZ is obviously a lot heavier than the Glock. If I had to carry one all day, I'd probably opt for the Glock.

My CZ-75B will hiccup now and then with aluminum-cased ammo and I've had it fail to fully chamber a brass-cased Fiocchi round on one occasion. I've never had a problem with aluminum-cased ammo in a Glock and I've never had any problem with Fiocchi in any other gun.

The CZ-75 isn't nearly as easy to detail strip as a Glock--few things are. Of course, detail-stripping isn't often necessary so that's probably a moot point for most folks.

The only other issue is that accessories (including mags) for the CZ can be harder to find and more expensive than for Glocks.

My take? Get both! That's what I did.
 
For range fun, firearms history/mechanics curiosity, and accuracy, CZs are awesome and aesthetically lovely.

For serious business when reliability and easy field manipulation are king, I'll take the G17 over the CZ75 10 times out of 10.

They both have a place in a good handgun collection.

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I think the CZ is a more betterer service pistol/.mil pistol... but the Glock is lighter and carries darn well.

Other than that, both sling 9mm or .40 bullets and those hurt. Both are reliable, both are accurate... it really comes down to how the gun fits the persons hands and how they like the controls.
 
I trained with and duty carried Glocks, and I own or have owned a total of four CZ's or CZ clones. The specific guns I've owned are...

G35, G22, G22 RTF, G23, CZ 75B, CZ P07, steel frame full size Jericho, steel frame full size EAA Witness.

Obviously, the last two are CZ "clones" or CZ "inspired." My preference? The CZ's. I'm used to DA/SA, so that part is completely subjective. As far as objective observations, I can't say either really does a task better than the other. The P07 and the Jericho had finishes that appeared to wear a little less over time. And, the P07 has a tad more grip to it, which is helpful if your a large hand guy like me. I shot both about the same as far as accuracy and speed go. I don't care much about accuracy beyond what's practical for saving my hide, so I don't bench rest anything.

I give the edge to CZ for wholly subjective reasons.
 
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I have both: a CZ 75B and a Glock 17. The CZ is da/sa in glossy blued finish. The Glock 17 is an old 2-pin early 2nd Gen from the early '90's.

Pro's for the CZ 75B
1. Beautiful gun - nice finish
2. Very nice balance and feel
3. Good da/sa trigger (but, not as good as the one on my Tanfoglio Stock 10mm)
4. Shoots nice; I can shoot it accurately at reasonable distances.
5. Reliable.

Glock 17 pros
1. Rugged and durable - doesn't even show signs of wear
2. Won't rust
3. Little maintenance needed
4. easy to clean
5. reliable

Cons for both CZ 75 and Glock

1. CZ 75 will scratch easily and won't be as pretty after a lot of use;
2. Glock isn't pretty after no use....or a lot of use, doesn't matter.
3. CZ 75 is heavier
4. CZ 75 is much more accurate....for me!
5. Glock holds a couple rounds more than the CZ 75 with a factory magazine.
6. CZ is da/sa - which I like a lot more than the Glock striker-fired system; Glock trigger sucks (for me) and has the annoying trigger-dingus safety.
 
I think this is an apples and oranges comparison.

The CZ75 was one of the last "old school" combat pistols if you like. (possibly the best?)
It is the culmination and evolution of the pistols like the M1911, P35, P38, etc.
All metal construction, hammer-fired, manual (separate) safety mechanisms, etc.

The G17 was the page-turner to the modern style of combat pistol.
Although it did not pioneer many of it's traits, it did bring them all together and introduce them to the mass-market.
Polymer frame, striker-fired, "passive" safety.

I have owned both, still own the CZ; that should tell you my preference.
Wouldn't feel outclassed carrying either pistol though.

BTW, the guy that bought my G17 likes it much better than my CZ.
 
Jo6pak said:
It is the culmination and evolution of the pistols like the M1911, P35, P38, etc.
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Maybe I'm misinterpreting your comments, above... and you did say "Like" the M9811, P35, P38, etc...

I like the CZ-75 pattern guns a lot. I would argue that the CZ is really a basically different design than any of the guns cited, and has little in common with them. I would also assert that the CZ-75 is certainly not an evolution of THOSE designs nor a continuation of something those designs started.

The 1911, P38, and P35 were designed as service pistols for the U.S., German, and French military. While the designers of the CZ-75 probably had "service pistol" in mind when they developed the gun, it clearly was NOT intended for Communist Bloc military use -- it seems that export tp the West was their primary intent. Had there not been a Western Embargo of most Communist products and materials, it would likely have been a great success.

The CZ-75 was designed around the 124 gr. Sellier & Bellot 9x19 round, and the Communist Bloc didn't use the 9x19 round in any of it's weapons. The CZ was used in any of the former Warsaw Pact countries, it was only in very limited number and specialized unit until after the fall of the Soviet Union.

About the only thing the CZ has in common with the 1911 or P-35 is a variation of the Browning short-recoil mechanism, and the CZ way of doing it is quite different from either of those guns. While the CZ looks like the BHP, its hard to imagine two guns that are more different internally or functionally.

About the only thing the CZ and P-38 have in common is DA/SA functionality, but the P-38 can't be started from cocked & locked -- it's either a DA start or you thumb cock it. No cocked & locked starts like the original CZ-75. The P-38 also uses a subtly different locked-breech design, different than the Browning design.
 
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