Coyote that should have got away!

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In Canada last year there was a 19 year old young lady that died after being mauled by two coyotes.
There's more attacks on humans from coyotes then most people realize.
By the way I just shot another one this morning running down a hedge row.
Regards
Bob Hunter
www.huntercustoms.com
 
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You are a thoughtless, repugnant pile of trash.... You aren't fit to own a gun. You have to be mentally ill. Take your meds,
Yikes...

Yeah, that was over the top.
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What was over the top was when LC came on to a HUNTING FORUM and started flaming the OP for legally, and ethically shooting a 'yote. It was TROLL behavior. He deserved each and every flame and insult that was shot at him. He should be banned. I'm with 72gator.
 
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What was over the top was when LC came on to a HUNTING FORUM and started flaming the OP for legally, and ethically shooting a 'yote. It was TROLL behavior. He deserved each and every flame and insult that was shot at him. He should be banned. I'm with 72gator.
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There is no question that leadcouncil was trolling and insulting when he went after the OP but do we really need to go to the point where we toss insults back and forth?
 
I still can't agree with the concept of animals being equal to people, but I digress. I am sorry for over-reacting. I value my beagle dogs(which are threatened by coyotes... constantly) and my privelege to hunt and own guns. It is worth noting, however, that this is a hunting forum, and all legal hunting actions or concepts should be shared here without harassment or judgement by our peers. My previous comments were a bit harsh, but I feel as passionately about my hunting heritage as this anti feels about saving the coyotes that hunt my hounds. Once again, I apologize to my hunting brethren that I may have offended. I will never apologize to the anti-hunting faction. That is all.

Joe
 
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I value my beagle dogs
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Imagine if one of your dogs were loose and someone decided to shoot it because they felt it was a 'threat' - maybe to their cat or bird or flowerpatch... Imagine how PO'd you'd be at yourself, the dog getting loose, and the other person for shooting it. Maybe a beagle is a stretch, but what if you had a big dog that could be mistaken for a threat or a coyote... and someone blasted it for kicks.

Then maybe you can understand why it would upset someone else (aka me) when people justify shooting a coyote that's out minding its own business in the middle of some field.

As for being a troll, like I said before if you wanna tell a hunting story that involves some skill of a hunt, I'm all ears. While 'hunting' certainly can be 'sport only', I like to think of it as hunting for the sake of eating or using the animal. Effectively stepping off your back porch and capping a large dog a few hundred meters away with a bolt action rifle just ain't huntin' and ain't impressive...

Here's my "hunting" story: Dear diary. Today I was at the range. There was a gong 400 meters away. I shot it. It rang. That's all.
 
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SingleSix, I`ve never hunted yotes but have shot a few while out -n-about. Some 10 or so years ago a friend of mine and I were coming home from a rather unproductive morning of turkey hunting. He`s driving and I looked across a field and probably 300yds out, on top of a roundbail, lay a nice yote sunning herself.

Stopped truck, got the bino`s out and noticed she had a pup running around playing. They didn`t know we were on the planet.

I got my 22-250 out from behind the seat, layed it across the hood and put the crosshairs on her. Her head was down and my buddy said he was going to whistle and if she raises her head take her. Worked like a charm.

The pup didn`t know what to do so it ran towards us and stopped about 150yds. out and looked back mom`s way just long enough for me to get a sight picture. I`ll say a 22-250 does a good job when hitting shoulder.

Also killed three in the backyard last early fall. Again, momma and two pups. All three the same night using a .22.

Since rabbit season just ended here in the great state of Ohio and there`s nothing else in season till Spring turkey. I`m going to try my hand at actually coyote hunting.

If its ok, I`ll be picking you fellow hunters brains a bit.
 
by deffintion the op did HUNT: to persue game for food or sport the op is a hunter : someone or somethink that kills for sport or food as i read the op the persued the yote. we dont have yotes in aus but we have wild dogs and beleave me u can tell the diffrance between someones pet and a wild dog
a pet doesnt try rip your throat out while you sleep and if it does it should be shot aswell in aus we have a hugew dog problame a me and a couple mates went out west spent one afretnoon chaseing mongrels and got 35 in 4 hours all mange skinny savage dogs i love dogs but wen they get like that they need the lead balancing

cheers damo
 
Imagine if one of your dogs were loose and someone decided to shoot it because they felt it was a 'threat' - maybe to their cat or bird or flowerpatch... Imagine how PO'd you'd be at yourself, the dog getting loose, and the other person for shooting it. Maybe a beagle is a stretch, but what if you had a big dog that could be mistaken for a threat or a coyote... and someone blasted it for kicks.
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I think your coments are ignorant to other folks situations and problems. Just because you do not have or understand someones problem with yotes or dogs doesn't mean they do not exist.

Even going along with your situation. It is still understandable to me someone would shoot my dog if it roamed loose. I knew a very young girl growing up that was mauled by someones pet, that supposedly was never mean to anyone. The dog had to be killed to stop the attack and the young girl was hospitalized and had to have major reconstructive surgery of her face.

Any animal that isn't yours can potentialy be a threat. IMO
 
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Imagine if one of your dogs were loose and someone decided to shoot it because they felt it was a 'threat' - maybe to their cat or bird or flowerpatch... Imagine how PO'd you'd be at yourself, the dog getting loose, and the other person for shooting it. Maybe a beagle is a stretch, but what if you had a big dog that could be mistaken for a threat or a coyote... and someone blasted it for kicks.

Then maybe you can understand why it would upset someone else (aka me) when people justify shooting a coyote that's out minding its own business in the middle of some field.
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Since the coyote doesn't belong to you, you shouldn't have a problem with someone shooting a coyote.

I think it's been made abundantly clear that coyotes are not only not endangered but need to be controlled in certain areas. The federal government thinks coyotes need to be controlled and uses poisons. State governments think they need to be controlled and the majority of us on this board feel the same way.

As for being a troll, like I said before if you wanna tell a hunting story that involves some skill of a hunt, I'm all ears. While 'hunting' certainly can be 'sport only', I like to think of it as hunting for the sake of eating or using the animal. Effectively stepping off your back porch and capping a large dog a few hundred meters away with a bolt action rifle just ain't huntin' and ain't impressive...

Here's my "hunting" story: Dear diary. Today I was at the range. There was a gong 400 meters away. I shot it. It rang. That's all.
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If you think shooting a coyote with a 112 year old iron sighted rifle at 400 yards doesn't take skill, you must be a godlike master of shooting. I think it's more likely that you are upset that someone shot one of your coyotes and simply decided to try and insult the op.
 
I do not believe that LC is a troll. He has contributed to other discussions on the forum and is very informative in them. I just think he either will not or can not see anyone else's side. (Maybe that is just the lawyer in him :D)

If your dog is just harmlessly in someone else's field, he does not belong there. And I have seen a German Shepard mistaken for a coyote and shot. That German Shepard was also stalking a cow/calf pair. When my Shepard is off the leash, she stays with me. If she takes off, I actively look for her. I understand she looks very much like a coyote from the back side (lots of gray and brownish yellow in her hair).

But I wonder, if we switched the coyote with a Raccoon, or even a skunk, would LC feel the same way? What about a rat, a hog or an opossum? All of these animals carry diseases and vermin I do not want near my livestock and they are known to travel miles to food sources.

I like animals, I think coyotes and wolves are beautiful and I have seen a few very nice looking raccoons and skunks. But I do not let my opinion of them get in the way of doing what I know needs to be done.

I applaud the guys who can get out there and wait for the coyotes (and the wild hogs!).
 
First let me make clear that this was a 100 yrd shot with a 112 yr old iron sight gun...not 400 yrds. I wasn't sure I could make the 400 yrd shot so I risked looseing the yote without shooting and sneeked more closing the gap.
Second I have a Yellow lab that is with me day & night. Nobody likes dogs more than me. That said if a dog becomes "trouble" I.E. bitteing folks or killing livestock it is delt with. A few years ago my German Wirehair Pointer (who I was quite fond of ) bit a customer on the arm, sinking her k-9s to the bone.
The dog was not sick, she thought she was protecing my wife. This was her 3 strike. It was the first time she drew blood. Luck was with me because she bit a man who not only I had known my whole life but also loves dogs. This could have proven to be a bad lawsuit if it had been a stranger. Anyway after all shot records were presented to the vic. the dog was put down.
Third if I see a dog in my field I can tell it from a wild coyote. Don't assume people who "hunt" only do it to kill. Most hunters hunt for an out door adventure. Alot of folks who hunt meat also use cameras to capture natures grace. Try filling a album with photos of pop-up targets and see how mutch people enjoy it. LC you should go on a deer hunt or a day trip calling coyotes and bring a camera just to see how it is a true sport with challenge. If you go looking for A-pex preditors (bears,lions,or even russain bore) don't forget you pepper spray.
 
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I`m with Uncle Buck. I don`t believe LC's a troll. He`s contributed over 1100 posts to TFL.

What I do believe is he has a young man`s closed/immature mind and if he doesn`t change will end up having an old man`s ignorant mind.

Probably safe to say he`s guilty of responding to other topic's without much knowledge of them either.
Not a sign of a `good` lawyer (if he is one).

Old saying "Hard head makes soft a#^ every time".

The common since given to him here on this thread is something he should think about.

LC, Your the one still guilty of 'shortsighted folly' and still owe Singlesix an apology.
 
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First let me make clear that this was a 100 yrd shot with a 112 yr old iron sight gun...not 400 yrds. I wasn't sure I could make the 400 yrd shot so I risked looseing the yote without shooting and sneeked more closing the gap.
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A 300 yard stalk on a coyote is impressive.
 
Yes a 300 yard stalk is impressive, especially when the wind is at the stalkers back and in the coyotes face.
I've hunted and killed coyotes for a lot of years, as I said before congradulations to Singlesix1954 on a successful hunt and a job well done.

I had a bleeding heart question me once about my killing of coyotes, my reply was "instinct".

As for being able to hit a stationary gong at 400 yards, that's a walk through the park.
I have a bull barrel 243 that shoots 3/8 MOA at 100 yards and I've routinely dropped coyotes at 1/4 mile plus with it.
There's nothing like hitting a yote that thinks he got away, trots out there, turns to look back and does not even realize that's the last thing he did.
Regards
Bob Hunter
www.huntercustoms.com
 
SingleSix - Still an impressive shot after stalking it. Heck, if I was trying to do it with open sights, I might have scared it away. ;)
 
Local Dayton news just ran a report on Coyotes moving into urban areas. Complaints inside the city limits of dogs being killed.
Illegal to shoot in city, so their wildlife/animal control officer suggested clapping if you see one...

What I do believe is he has a young man`s closed/immature mind and if he doesn`t change will end up having an old man`s ignorant mind.
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Talk about an old man's ignorant mind... Could you make a few wider more offensive generalizations?

Probably safe to say he`s guilty of responding to other topic's without much knowledge of them either.
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I can faintly remember reading posts on other subjects by LC. I don't think your description characterized them in the slightest.
 
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I get a wee tad fed up with egregious exaggerations such as "Imagine if one of your dogs were loose and someone decided to shoot it because they felt it was a 'threat' - maybe to their cat or bird or flowerpatch... Imagine how PO'd you'd be at yourself, the dog getting loose, and the other person for shooting it."

It has nothing to do with the thread at all. It doesn't relate to the OP at all. Red herrings and all that stuff that's a big no-no to the prof in a course in Logic.

Me, I try to hold down the coyote numbers a bit just because they compete with me for the quail birds. "MY yummy-tasty, Mr. Wily, not yours!" Gotta have some around, though, for the music at night.

Varies with occupation and locale. I'm not raising chickens or goats, and I don't have a small child like some folks in Tucson or Phoenix. Nor am I a little photo-jounalist gal like the one in Canada who was killed by coyotes...
 
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