I don't have a CCW, but I do have a rifle for the occasional hunting trip.
If I'm coming back from a hunt and see this, I would stop at least 20 yards away (if possible, more), prone out, and shoot the guy going for the gun.
Then the guy with the club.
Then I'm getting in my car and getting the hell out of there. No calls on the cellphone.
The reasons for the above actions.
The criminals are presenting an obvious lethal threat/intent, and thus lethal force is appropriate. And as one of the major gun rules states:
Don't point your gun at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
If I'm pulling my rifle out, I'm not doing it to try to intimidate or warn off. It is a weapon, designed to kill, and that's what I use it for.
The man grabbing the gun is the greatest threat. Both because he could return my fire, and because he could instantly kill the officer. Also, if I shot the man with the club first, the other one could take cover behind the officer while still going for the gun.
The man with the club is standing, thus an easier target to hit since he isn't going to be able to take cover behind the officer before I can work the bolt for a second shot.
After they're both down, I'm leaving ASAP.
I don't know if the deputy had already called for backup which may roll up on the scene and see me there with a rifle and 2 (presumably) dead men and a down officer. I'd be just as likely to be shot at as congratulated. No thank you.
I also don't want the hassle that's inevitably going to follow. Wheter I'm cleared or not, there will be legal hassles involved that I would rather not deal with.
That's why no call on the cellphone since that can be traced. The deputy will either recover and get help on his radio, or a passing motorist will.
My grandfather was CHP, so I would certainly have wanted someone to help him in such a situation, but I'm also not going to expose myself to the whims of the CAlifornia legal system where it's a crapshoot on what the DA is going to do.
I would feel remorse for having to kill, but the situation wouldn't leave me any other moral options, in my opinion.
If I don't have my rifle with me (the usual situation) then I'm doing a U-turn and speed dialing 911 constantly till I get a connection. Then situation, location, description. Not having a firearm on me, I wouldn't be expected to attempt to intervene, thus no liability. Thank the screwed up legal system for that.
If I'm coming back from a hunt and see this, I would stop at least 20 yards away (if possible, more), prone out, and shoot the guy going for the gun.
Then the guy with the club.
Then I'm getting in my car and getting the hell out of there. No calls on the cellphone.
The reasons for the above actions.
The criminals are presenting an obvious lethal threat/intent, and thus lethal force is appropriate. And as one of the major gun rules states:
Don't point your gun at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
If I'm pulling my rifle out, I'm not doing it to try to intimidate or warn off. It is a weapon, designed to kill, and that's what I use it for.
The man grabbing the gun is the greatest threat. Both because he could return my fire, and because he could instantly kill the officer. Also, if I shot the man with the club first, the other one could take cover behind the officer while still going for the gun.
The man with the club is standing, thus an easier target to hit since he isn't going to be able to take cover behind the officer before I can work the bolt for a second shot.
After they're both down, I'm leaving ASAP.
I don't know if the deputy had already called for backup which may roll up on the scene and see me there with a rifle and 2 (presumably) dead men and a down officer. I'd be just as likely to be shot at as congratulated. No thank you.
I also don't want the hassle that's inevitably going to follow. Wheter I'm cleared or not, there will be legal hassles involved that I would rather not deal with.
That's why no call on the cellphone since that can be traced. The deputy will either recover and get help on his radio, or a passing motorist will.
My grandfather was CHP, so I would certainly have wanted someone to help him in such a situation, but I'm also not going to expose myself to the whims of the CAlifornia legal system where it's a crapshoot on what the DA is going to do.
I would feel remorse for having to kill, but the situation wouldn't leave me any other moral options, in my opinion.
If I don't have my rifle with me (the usual situation) then I'm doing a U-turn and speed dialing 911 constantly till I get a connection. Then situation, location, description. Not having a firearm on me, I wouldn't be expected to attempt to intervene, thus no liability. Thank the screwed up legal system for that.