Costco official statement - they are anti-gun, anti-CCW

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I go into Starbucks...yes, I shamefully admit I sometimes pay rediculous prices for a Frappacino..;) and Starbucks is known to be liberal and given support to gun control. Yet they don't have any "NO FIREARMS ALLOWED" signs and I have walked into their stores a couple of times with open carry and never been bothered by anyone. I have gone in with CCW as well.

So if liberal Starbucks can tolerate my carrying a gun in their store and appreciate my business more than their personal feelings or agenda, then Costco should learn from them.
 
I go into Starbucks...yes, I shamefully admit I sometimes pay rediculous prices for a Frappacino.. and Starbucks is known to be liberal and given support to gun control. Yet they don't have any "NO FIREARMS ALLOWED" signs and I have walked into their stores a couple of times with open carry and never been bothered by anyone. I have gone in with CCW as well.

So if liberal Starbucks can tolerate my carrying a gun in their store and appreciate my business more than their personal feelings or agenda, then Costco should learn from them.
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Yah, but Dust Devil:

If you're even halfway respectable looking and have the gumption to open carry in AZ, it is pretty well assumed by all "sheeple" that you are a police officer. Either off duty or a detective...

After all, you were in the modern day equivalent of Dunkin Donuts.

AZRedhawksorryforthesheeplebutcouldn'tresist44
 
Cosco won't fly the American Flag

While your on Cosco check and see if they fly the American Flag Nope they don't want to offend their customers. Screw them this is America and the Red White and Blue is the color of this great country and they can take a hike.
 
Make up a simple statement that says because of their "no firearms policy", that they hereby accept full responsiblity for your safety while on their premises. Then ask to see the manager and give it to him with a pen to sign. See what happens. Bill T.
 
These are all valid arguments and we will never come to an adequate resolution. So....... I'll be in Costco with my friends Heckler and Koch. ;)
 
So it's okay for businesses to engage in discrimination and violate civil rights?
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Businesses can choose to refuse service to anyone. That's private property, plain and simple. I'm actually MORE OK with businesses restricting CCW on premises than I am government. The government is public property.

Refusing service is not violating civil rights. You have no "right" to any product I offer as a businessman. I can elect to enter into a private contract with you for the purchase/use/lease of my goods or services. You can elect the same. Neither of us can force the other into such a contract.

That said... CCW "not allowed" postings are about as dumb as "pocket knives not allowed" or speed limit signs in private parking lots. And have about as many teeth when enforced.

How many of you do 5 MPH in the mall parking lot?
 
OK.....and generally

You cant refuse to do biz with a person on the basis of race, creed, coolur or religion (or in some states sexual orientation)in a place of public accomodation (like a business).

You can limit free speech in a place of public accomodation.

You can restrict or prohibit political activity in a place of public accomodation.

You can restrict the carrying of weapons.

WildseethedifferenceAlaska
 
Gunowners themselves who use the term sheeple do more harm than Cosco signs
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Bravo and well said. I know a lot of folks who don't carry, and don't want to carry, that are far from defenseless. Gunowners would do well to remove the term from their lexicon. It is frequently incorrect and always insulting.
And of course it is always enlightening to see how many honest, law-abiding gun owners jump up and immediately start advocating dishonesty and breaking the law in these situations.
 
So it's okay for businesses to engage in discrimination and violate civil rights?
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You can discriminate all you want to as long as that discrimination is not based on a a protected characteristic. And prohibiting CCW in a private business is not a violation of civil rights.
 
And of course it is always enlightening to see how many honest, law-abiding gun owners jump up and immediately start advocating dishonesty and breaking the law in these situations.
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I can't speak for your state, but in FL those signs don't mean a thing. Unless I'm asked to leave the store and refuse I'm not breaking any laws, then the law I'm breaking is tresspassing. As for dishonesty I don't feel it's dishonest to legally carry a legal weapon into a legal business.
 
I'm much the same way, I simply ignore most all, "No Firearms Allowed" signs unless it's on government property. Then you can get into real trouble. My attitude is what Denny's and Costco don't know won't hurt them, BUT IT MIGHT ME. So I carry regardless. If a situation occured forcing me to shoot to save my life, I seriously doubt if the place in question is going to make a stink about it. And if they chose to it would be the least of my worries. Bill T.
 
Bill you seen the sign at Denny's?
I don't believe I have.
What gets me about Costco is who they support (and the no firearms policy).
 
"Bill you seen the sign at Denny's?"

I haven't been in one in a while, but the last time I was it had the pistol with a line thru it sign in the waiting area. Bill T.
 
so let me get this straight, you carry a gun to protect yourself, but you eat Denny's Food.

WildsoundslikeacontradictionAlaska
 
"I agree, If you don't support a certain policy of a business, don't support the business."

It's easier to just ignore it, much the same way they choose to ignore my rights. Why handicap yourself by being forced to shop somewhere else and pay more? Money is too damn hard to come by. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you stay out of all business that don't agree with your way of thinking, you won't have too many places left to shop at. Bill T.
 
And what WOULD YOU suggest as a good shorthand for the middle-of-the-road-fence-sitters-no-strong-opinion-either-way--on-gun-issues-general-public-which-are-the-all-important-swing-voters-at-election-time-for-keeping-our-gun-rights?
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The easily-alienated.
 
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