Cop doesn't like guns in hands of citizens

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Powderman said:
Well, I can tell you most emphatically that the vast majority of police officers do NOT feel the same way. You have a right to own firearms, just as we do. We are the same as you--citizens of this great Nation; we just happen to wear badges, that's all.
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I think those majorities exist, but it's definitely regional.

When I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area, I don't think you could say a majority (vast or otherwise) of police officers believed it was good or even acceptable for private citizens to carry firearms. I would bet similar views exist Chicago, NYC, urban New Jersey, Boston, DEFINITELY Washington, DC, and similar urban areas that are dominated by a socialist-statist mindset.

I'm lucky (or rather blessed) to live in an area where most (but not all) police officers feel the same way you do.
 
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When I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area, I don't think you could say a majority (vast or otherwise) of police officers believed it was good or even acceptable for private citizens to carry firearms
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You are right on about that. I didn't live there, but I certainly do not doubt you.

For example, I can DEFINITELY say the vast number of New Orleans cops don't. Those guys over there PROVED it. They don't think we should have a 2nd Amendment, or a 4th Amendment for that matter. I doubt the majority of those guys would think we should have a Constitution at all. From New Orleans' entire police department's past actions, it appears they want Martial Law powers granted directly to them, and to keep it that way since the City's Police Chief has refused to return the firearms they Unconstitutionally seized in 2005.

At least, that is what their actions thus far prove.
 
I asked my LEO what he carried, he asked me what I carried, we both replied, "That's cool", he then added, "you should go bigger" ;)

I should invite him over to throw some lead at paper one weekend. :D
 
Having lived in Maryland for 57 years, within 20 miles of D.C., I can assure you that all of the Metro cops that I know are of the opinion that citizens who aren't criminals should be armed. Most are sick of arriving to take the report from citizens who were disarmed by stupid politicians.

I was in the Fire/EMS department with quite a few of them, as volunteers. I also worked with US Park Police, the Secret Service, the FBI, and the state and local police. I'd say that 99% were in agreement that citizens should be able to defend themselves with firearms from criminals.:)
 
That LEO is entitled to his opinion just like the rest of us and as long as he
understand he is paid to enforce the law and not his personal opinions, I don't
see a problem.
 
Common attitude among Law Enforcement

Many police officers immediately begin to think they are above "civilians" and the priveledge to carry a gun in many areas where it is off limits for civilians goes to their head. I also think having the ability to carry a gun and order civilians around gives them a belief that they are Superior beings. Then when one gets fired or has to resign under less than optimal conditions and they have to re-join the civilians again. Then all of the sudden: "Everyone should have CCW rights!!!"
 
I think every law abiding citizen should be able to own and carry a gun if they want to. On the other hand, if a cop comes to your house to confiscate your gun, he is enforcing the law. Obviously, the Constitution would have to be amendened before that happened. After Katrina when Nagin tried it, it was ruled unconstitutional and prohibited from happening again.

Those of you with the "from my cold dead hands" club should chill a bit. There are far better choices to make than shooting it out with cops. That will only get you and your house lit up, putting your family in danger. If the National Guard was called out in some emergency, be prepared to go out very quickly in a blaze of glory.

Someone comes to take mine, and I'd use the old "oh, those guns. I threw them in a lake last month" excuse.
 
i'm afraid i've got a REAL PROBLEM with leos who think i shouldn't be able to arm and protect myself or my family or him if need be! my father in law was a town cop here when i was dating his daughter and he always was of the thought we should all be armed if need be.............


LIFE IS SHORT..................
 
Cop doesn't like guns in hands of citizens
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I hope I'm present when that LEO is staring down the barrel of the BG's gun and he's about to take one...

This has just become my favorite hero fantasy... :cool:
 
they will think most citizens should not own a gun wait till the democrats take away their guns and make them use flashlights and a whistle, law officers are justy like you and i, they are citizens, if we as citizens have no right to own a gun then what kind a citizens are they that can. i was in law enforcement for 5 years and to me if you can prove yourself to carry a gun legaly and can legaly justify the use of deadly force should the need arise well then that is your right, after all the law enforcement officers can not use their weapons unless there is a immidiate threat of serious bodily harm. so what is the difference in a citizen protecting themselves and a law enforcement officer protecting themselves,????? sure they have power and rights as a law enforcement officer, but you also have the right to protect yourself as a citizen should there be a immidiate threat of serious bodily harm in your home or if carrying a CWP, just make sure you are legaly justifiable in doing so, this is a split second decision when the need arises, be prepared for a lengthy court battle as a citizen, even though you have a CWP, things are taken seriously in a court. :)
 
The gentleman in question is entitled to his opinion, however that's about all that it is, his opinion.

It remains that he is A PUBLIC SERVANT, and not a ruler of the public. Both he and a lot of others nered to remember that not to subtle point, or so it seems to me.
 
I have been an LEO for close to 30 years. I grew up in a very pro gun home and we shot almost every weekend. I feel that every law abiding citizen of sound mind should be armed at all times. When I see a BG that some would be victim showed that he just picked the wrong victim, I get warm all over. I swore an oath to serve and protect the constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Those who would erode the constitution are just as much an enemy as those who try to kill us. I know cops that do not carry off duty:( . You must understand the basic principal of law enforcement, the job of the Police is to protect society, not the individual. that is not saying that we do not do everything we can to protect people, but, someone generally must be a victim so a BG can be punished. By using your God given right of self defense hopefully some BG will have a very bad day. A free society should not try to legislate self defense, it is that old fight or flight instinct, survival trumps everything else. I'll get off the soap box, I am so strongly against gun control that it is very important to me.
 
You must understand the basic principal of law enforcement, the job of the Police is to protect society, not the individual.
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The job of police is to enforce only laws that are constitutional, even if that means failing to protect someone -- or society -- from probable harm.

also, I am not a SERVANT of anyone.
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There's a coat rack in the corner where you can hang up your ego.
 
My brother, who is a LEO, is firmly against CCW.
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Well hopefully, one day when he has his tit in a wringer dealing with a suspect/arrestee, all the CCWers passing by will respect his wishes and not stop to help with their guns.
 
Any demographic you can name has its share of a** holes: girls scouts, cops, mailmen, bikers, moms, etc. The scientific term for this is the anus quotient and the normal range is 8-12%. The cop you mention is one of those.
 
For lack of better terms, I’ll use liberals and conservatives here as I am of the opinion that more liberals appear to be against gun ownership than are conservatives. Of course, there are people in both groups that don’t fit the mold in regards to this subject, but I’ll use those terms since I believe the majority of each group fall in line with that theory.

Not all LEOs are conservatives. Some are very liberal when it comes to certain subjects. To imply a person can’t have certain views because of his/her occupation is a bit extreme. An LEO that is against gun ownership is no better and no worse than one who promotes ownership. It’s a personal view. Now, if you can find a LEO who violates a gun owner’s rights based on his/her views of gun ownership, there is a problem.
 
If that's an accurate quote

Maybe he meant he knows a lot of people who lack the maturity and common sense needed to safely handle the responsibility of owning a firearm. Just because you have the RIGHT doesn't automatically mean you should.
 
Homerboy (bolding by Trip20) said:
I think every law abiding citizen should be able to own and carry a gun if they want to. On the other hand, if a cop comes to your house to confiscate your gun, he is enforcing the law.
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Uh, as in under the circumstances of Katrina (which you bring up as an example)? I don't think so; it's not that simple.

You mention Katrina - the individuals confiscating firearms were a disgrace. They should have disregarded the order to confiscate guns. It showed the nation that officers would enforce the will of the state - no matter how unconstitutional – if only because they were told to do so. Real reassuring let me tell ya.

Officers can't hide behind that "only following orders" stuff. They can’t shift the blame on to the state and shrug off their own personal responsibility.

If an officer believes an order is unlawful/unconstitutional, he/she can choose not to enforce the same -- in fact I'll go further to say that officer has a duty to refuse the order. That will take a little intervention from their conscience, and the realization that they are more than just a robot arm of the law following every command.
 
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