Concealment vs power

Buying used is risky but you can get a better gun that way.
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There is some risk in buying anything, new or used.

But the old, solid Ruger and S&W revolvers are very likely to be solid guns.

I don't buy a lot of used guns, but I've had more disappointments with new guns than with used ones. Maybe I've just been luckly :)

Ken
 
blkwulff... If I was ever in a real firefight, I think I'd want you on my team... poor grammar, .22, and all... I can tell you've got tenacity... (staying-power)... And I truly hope you never-ever have to take a trip in the meatwagon...
 
blkwulff... If I was ever in a real firefight, I think I'd want you on my team... poor grammar, .22, and all... I can tell you've got tenacity... (staying-power)... And I truly hope you never-ever have to take a trip in the meatwagon...
I agree with CWKahrFan. Although it took me an hour and a half, plus a magnifying glass and a bottle of aspirin to read blkwulff's posts, the guy has it right. Start .22, get accuracy down, completely down. Then go larger caliber.

Seriously though blkwulff. With all that money you are saving on bullets, buy a few punctuation marks. Really.
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$300 really limits your choices. I would check Academey sports and get the S&W Sigma 9mm or 40 cal are both on sale for $279 right now. I like the 9mm myself great gun to start with, don't worry about CCW or home defense it will serve for both.
 
Ok, thanks! The Hi point was very intriguing, mainly due to price and caliber size, but not something easily concealable.
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You can't ccw a Hi Point. Check its weight and size against others.

If you want something small to keep in your pocket there is the
Ruger LCP .380 and Kel Tecs P3AT .380 If you go into 9mm then
you will probably have to get an IWB holster of some type.

Good Luck on your search,
 
A snubnose revolver is a great compromise between power and concealability. 38 special will do the job if you do yours.

There's a bunch on the used market in your price range too.
 
Glock 26

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microman said:
You can't ccw a Hi Point. Check its weight and size against others.
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Why not? Much larger guns are concealed all the time. Unless there is some other compelling reason not to do so.

--Wag--
 
9mm is a perfect self defense ammo
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There is no "perfect" ammo or gun. Everything is a compromise.

--Some are very small and easily concealable, but are marginal in power and/or capacity.
--Higher capacity means larger and usually fatter (double-stack).
--A larger, more powerful cartridge either means a larger, heavier pistol or a light pistol with brutal recoil.

You will have to experiment and determine what is appropriate for you. I started small and light, and am learning how to conceal larger and heavier handguns every year.

Seven years into my CCW experiment, I am currently carrying a 4" steel S&W N-frame in the winter, and a .45 acp Commander-sized (steel or alloy framed) 1911 the remainder of the year.

FWIW, I am 54 y.o., 5'9", 152 lbs, with a spinal fusion sugery behind me. I can't run as fast as I used to, and can't fight H2H as well, so I take some comfort in carrying something I shoot well and have some confidence in.
 
I think "power" is misleading. It is best to have a weapon with you. If it is a .32, .380 or even a .22, having it when you need it is most important. The mission is indicative of the caliber. I think many people have a gross misconception of the mission of citizen self defense.
 
Ultra-concealable - Kel-Tec P-32 or Ruger LCP.

Very-concealable with adequate power - Kel-Tec PF-9

Very concealable with greater power - Walther PPS in .40 S&W

Quite concealable with greater power and capacity - Taurus PT-145 Millinnium Pro.
 
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