until someone points out how you shot him in the BACK.....
You seem to be implying there is something wrong (illegal or immoral) about that.
until someone points out how you shot him in the BACK.....
sniper 51 said:First of all I made a decision many years ago that if I can't carry in a particular business, location, etc. based on law or the owners signs, they don't need my business. I absolutely refuse to do business with anyone, anywhere that refuses to allow me to practice my constitutional right to defend myself.
M) A permit issued pursuant to this section does not authorize a permit holder to carry a concealable weapon into a:
(1) law enforcement, correctional, or detention facility;
(2) courthouse or courtroom;
(3) polling place on election days;
(4) office of or the business meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special purpose district;
(5) school or college athletic event not related to firearms;
(6) daycare facility or preschool facility;
(7) place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law;
(8) church or other established religious sanctuary unless express permission is given by the appropriate church official or governing body;
(9) hospital, medical clinic, doctor's office, or any other facility where medical services or procedures are performed unless expressly authorized by the employer;
Florida law prohibits carrying a firearm where alcohol is served.
Every CCW holder there shoots at least 3,000 rounds a year and would have engaged a shooter if there was an opportunity.
swede4198 said:Most police are terrible shots and quite a few have problems qualifying
Basic Firearms Qualification:
On a 25-yard range, equipped with POST approved P-1 targets, the student, given a pistol or revolver, holster and 240 rounds of ammunition, will fire the POST firearms qualification course at least four times. Scores must be averaged and the student must:
Fire all courses in the required stage time;
Use the correct body position for each course of fire;
Fire the entire course using double action only, except in case of single action only semi-automatic pistols;
Fire no more than the specified number of rounds per stage;
Fire each course at a distance not appreciably lesser nor greater than that specified;
Achieve an average score of not less than 96 out of a possible 120, which is 80% or above;
Have all targets graded and final score computed by a POST-certified firearms instructor.
So, you can't shoot him until you see him shoot someone.
OOPS!! You just shot the CCW , who just shot the perp. Cops walk in, see your gun - now you're dead.
I'm absolutely not saying any of the victims deserved this, but this is another example that nothing good happens at 2am in public. That I am "just sayin"
Another way of looking at it.
A whole lot of folks in times past received their draft notices.Perhaps with reluctance,they showed up.They were not driven by Walter Mitty hero fantasies.
They received some training.Training may have been good to poor.Is it ever really enough?
Some of them ended up in a Higgins boat ,dropping the ramp on Omaha Beach.
Or on Hamburger Hill.
To be in that club with a CCW might well have been a lot like being in the first wave of troops on Omaha Beach ,with darn little cover,open ground to cross,and well emplaced,co-ordinated machine guns killing everyone.
It might be argued that an everday,drafted infantryman with an M-1 Garand,of modest but not exceptional skills,scared,disoriented,seeing people die all around him,maybe even wounded....didn't have very good odds.
We might armchair declare he did not have a chance.
We might suggest his best bet would be "Ditch this!!.I'm just going to look out for me."
But somehow that Troop with his rifle made it across that open beach,to the sea wall,pushed the Bangalore torpedo through the wire,blew it,and broke through.
Reading many of the comments here,it is apparent that the character of the Greatest Generation is pretty much dead in America.
There is the negative"Doesn't have a chance"crowd.There is the"Too bad for you,I just look out for me" crowd.
And a few. The few,who make a difference
Louisiana POST Course starts on page 55 here if anyone wants to try it. Summary image is attached. My experience with typical civilian shooters is that the 25 and 15 yard stages eat their lunch.